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Wednesday, July 18, 2007

Micheal Vick: The Ambush

Well, well. Surprise, surprise.

As everyone in blogfrica is aware, the feds hit Michael Vick with an indictment.

A week or so ago, it was interpreted (read: leaked) that Vick would not be getting indicted. That just those 3 (or was it 4?) individuals named in the initial indictment would be the ones charged.

Now, this turn of events.

We need to provide proper perspective, because all you are going to get in the media is "Vick is a terrible person and deserves this".

The feds conducted an initial investigation of the property. At the time, it was reported that they found enough evidence to determine that a dog fighting operation had been carried out on the land. No charges followed.

Imagine, you are one of the individuals that lived on the property. Pretty nerve wrecking situation, right? They claimed they have all the evidence they needed, but no charges came. Has to have you wondering about your future.

Then, they come a second time. This time, indictments. And, it is leaked to the media that an indictment of Vick probably won't follow.

If you are one of those indicted in this high profile case, you gotta be pretty worried about your future, don't you? You'd be primed for an offer out of this, or at least a chance to lessen the possible sentence.

Would it be far fetched to speculate that we are going to see these individuals turn against Vick in court?

The feds want Vick, badly. Very badly.

Up until now, they didn't seem to have the confidence to indict him.

No earth shattering new evidence has been introduced. All that has changed is that those originally indicted have had a lot of time to organize and possibly rethink the situation. And to have their lawyers talk to the feds about what the future holds.

This doesn't bode well for Vick.

It seems that the necessary ammunition for a conviction that the feds could not find in their investigation is going to be "located". Introduced by coercing the originally indicted group to stand against Vick. Possibly in return for mitigated punishment.

Culpepper cut.

Vick in hot water.

Donovan McNabb, be careful out there.

45 comments:

Oops Pow Surprise said...

The intentions of the feds, Goodell, and the media are so transparent, it would hardly be surprising if three severed heads and a rocket launcher were "found" in Tarvaris Jackson's back seat during a "routine traffic stop."

When will the madness stop?

Burnsy said...

Byron Leftwich would like to enter NOIS protective custody, sirs.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"Byron Leftwich would like to enter NOIS protective custody, sirs. "

Sir, we already received his application.

omnivore43 said...

So all evidence is necessarily faked to prove false allegations? What information could possibly come forward that would convince you that Michael Vick is guilty? If there are statements, you say that the statements were coerced. When there is evidence, you say that is is fake. If there was video, would you say that it was fixed? If there were pictures, were they photoshopped? Leaked reports about who may or may not be indicted are not proof about what the feds were planning to do. There was a singular ongoing investigation that included multiple trips to Vick's property and multiple interviews with multiple witnesses. That investigation spurred an indictment. This is how the legal process is supposed to work.

P.S. Culpepper asked to be cut weeks ago. Last I heard, the Dolphins not cutting him was proof of racism in the league. Now cutting him is proof of the same.

Vance said...

Have you guys read the indictment? Vick tortured and killed animals by electrocution, slamming, and drowning.

OK, the point of this blog posturing about prejudice toward races of athletes was well taken. Now that has worn thin.

Any defense of this anti-social who would torture and heinously kill a dependent animal is horrible. This isn't funny anymore. This is serious sociopathic behavior.

There is little defense for cruelty to animals. It is sick, disturbed behavior. Vick's behavior is not the result of some conspiracy put together by Roger Goddell.

Your blog could do so much better if not defending the sick jocks out there.

Come on. Sick, cruel behavior is exhibited by athletes of all races, religions, heights weights, and various developmental stages of morals. It should not be tolerated. It should be punished without mercy.

H.N.I.C. said...

Vance, pull your fuckin panties up boi, these are fuckin Pit Bulls here, not fluffy, or fuckin fido. These dogs have been bred to fight for over a thousand years. Bred to the point of total retardation, these are fighting animals, they kill small children constantly. I for one don't shed a single tear for some fuckin vicious ass retarded dog. Fuck 'em. Mike Vick is the brotha white America loves to hate, he's the new Mike Tysion for all you fucks care. This shit goes on in every community in every town, city, and state in this country, but you only hear about it when brothas you love to hate do it. I wish somebody would throw your dumbass in one of those pits and yell "Get 'em boys".

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"Have you guys read the indictment? Vick tortured and killed animals by electrocution, slamming, and drowning."

Sir, firstly, Vick is ACCUSED of torturing these animals.

What is the actual evidence?

The ACTUAL evidence seems to be the WORD of the OTHER people indicted!

People that may well be getting reduced punishments if they speak against Vick.

"It should be punished without mercy."

...if and when the judiciary process has been completed fairly and soundly.

And a conviction, not just and indictment is the result.

Just because YOU believe that dogs have more rights than Negro athletes doesn't mean we all do.

Due process. Fair proceedings.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"What information could possibly come forward that would convince you that Michael Vick is guilty? "

Sir, Vick seems like an honest man.

If he admits he did it, we'd believe him.

omnivore43 said...

Ok sir, then let us speak about the general case. Should all defendants be presumed innocent until they confess? Your blog does not seem to contain a theory as to an improved structure for the American criminal justice system, so I must ask: Do you believe that first person testimony is the only way to evaluate any and all criminal charges? If not, what is it about this case in particular that causes your skepticism concerning all other forms of evidence?

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"Your blog does not seem to contain a theory as to an improved structure for the American criminal justice system"

Sir, surprisingly, NOIS does not.

But, you make a valid point.

Our research assistant will start doing the groundwork.

Thank you.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"If not, what is it about this case in particular that causes your skepticism concerning all other forms of evidence? "

Sir, what are the other forms of evidence?

Is there physical evidence? Or is the evidence simply the "testimony" of several indicted dog fight promoters?

Where's the credibility?

And if these men are eventually convicted....and Vick gets convicted..then we have a serious problem.

Vick would be convicted on the testimony of convicted felons.

How can we say Vick got fair due process when the case against him is built on the word of convicted felons? Men who are convicted of killing and fighting dogs. You yourself have said how cruel this is...how low the morals of someone doing it must be.

And we are to take THEIR word and convict Michael Vick???

Egad!

Burnsy said...

I prefer we use the Chappelle/Kelly evidence gathering method. You get me film footage of Michael Vick beating a dog to death using the carcass of another dog and then maybe I'll believe it.

omnivore43 said...

Sir,

You may want to read my 2 short posts for my purported allegations concerning Mr. Vick. I have made no comment as to the level of cruelty or inhumanity of the charges of which he is accused. In the United States of America, property ownership is a right that bears responsibility. There is significant physical evidence concerning dog fighting activities that took place on the property owned by Mr. Vick. That is the evidence I speak of; evidence that supports my belief in Mr. Vick’s guilt.

It seems you have invented a mystical principle of law that the testimony of convicted felons is valueless in a court of law. You may wish to add this to your upcoming theory on the American justice system, because it has no place in the current system. I have made no value judgments as to the conduct of Mr. Vick or his associates. However, it is the opinion of the federal government that those individuals constituted a criminal enterprise whose business it was to conduct illegal animal fighting training and events. Often, the only way to convict members of a criminal enterprise is to infiltrate the enterprise and use the testimony of one or more members against the others. Again, if you find this practice unacceptable, I suggest you add it to your upcoming treatise.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"It seems you have invented a mystical principle of law that the testimony of convicted felons is valueless in a court of law."

Sir, valueless???

In this case, it seems to be invaluable.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"Often, the only way to convict members of a criminal enterprise is to infiltrate the enterprise and use the testimony of one or more members against the others. "

Sir,we are well aware that government prosecutors have made careers by threatening young Negroes with long prison terms if they don't agree to whatever allegations against others the prosecutors would put in front of them.

This is nothing surprising and nothing new.

While we disagree with you on jumping on the "Vick is guilty" bandwagon so quickly. We do appreciate you agreeing with us on the coercion issue.

We agree with your sentiment. Just because it is an often used coersion technique, that doesn't make it right.

Excellent point.

omnivore43 said...

And if these men are eventually convicted....and Vick gets convicted..then we have a serious problem.

Vick would be convicted on the testimony of convicted felons.

"In this case, it seems to be invaluable. "

Yes. In the actual practice of actual law, their testimony is invaluable. It was your proposal that questioned the credibility of accomplice testimony. Rather than quibble over the details in the comments of a single post, I will wait for your legal treatise before attempting to point out the flaws in your disjointed argument.

omnivore43 said...

"Sir,we are well aware that government prosecutors have made careers by threatening young Negroes with long prison terms if they don't agree to whatever allegations against others the prosecutors would put in front of them."

Sir, I would not expect you to have a comment on other worldly events, but what of the recent conviction of Conrad Black, media mogul, or of Ken Lay at Enron? Both were convicted due to testimony of associates who pled guilty to lesser crimes so that the government could more effectively prosecute the heads of such criminal enterprises. While you allege that such a coercive practice is used to threaten young Negroes, it is also used against old white guys. Do your advocate the release of these non-Negro criminals as well?

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"Rather than quibble over the details in the comments of a single post, I will wait for your legal treatise before attempting to point out the flaws in your disjointed argument. "

Sir, thank you for your patience.

We are already undertaking the start of nationofislamsportsbloglegalmanefestoblog.blogspot.com

"Do your advocate the release of these non-Negro criminals as well? "

Chhh..Chhh..whaaa...YOU said you were gonna wait for our legal treatise!!!

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"Sir, I would not expect you to have a comment on other worldly events"

Sir, at this point in time, we simply are not familiar enough with UFOs and Martians and such as to comment on other worldly events.

We do, however, appreciate your interest in our input on the topic.

Tripod said...

" Conrad Black, media mogul, or of Ken Lay at Enron? "

set Black free!!!

let the others burn.

Bobbo said...

What a sick site. Michael I-never-met-a-receiver-I-couldn't-miss Vick spends years maiming dogs for fun but because he is a black athelete his actions should be forgiven. Right.

Send the bitch to jail.

Vance said...

Yes, you are right, Vick deserves due process, and an opportunity to defend himself.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

" because he is a black athelete his actions should be forgiven"

Sir, your desire to categorize us as biased because of his race completed neglects our main point.

Due process.

We never said he should be forgiven, anyway.

He hasn't even been convicted yet. So, at this point, what is there to forgive?

Randys Johnson said...

"Due process. Fair proceedings."


He cut off all his hair so the dew process is unlikely.

Steven A's Cheese Doodles said...

"He cut off all his hair so the dew process is unlikely. "

i can't tell if you are clever or stupid...you walk that fine line.

linda said...

Dont use race or religion to protray Micheal Vick as being set up by any one. Hes an animal abuser. Its pathetic to stick behind Vick or anyone who could be involved with any type of abuse.
The most time he could get is 6 years. He deserves a lot more than 6 years.
The FBI is totally right in going after these punks. These punks have to abuse animals in their sadistic lives as they are to gutless. the animal abusers are just like child molestors. Prey on
the innocent.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"Dont use race or religion to protray Micheal Vick as being set up by any one."

Ma'am, thanks. We won't.

Oh, and linda is a cute name.

Bet you are hot. And smart, too.

Ericka said...

My feelings about the whole situation is that it is being blown way out of preportion. I am a dog owner and I love my dog, however their are much worse things in this world that Micheal Vick could have done and I believe that the whole thing is just a campaign mainly to ruin his name and reputation. Athletes are caught all the time in possession of drugs, weapons and even domestic violence and most of them once you hear about it the first time you never hear anything again. So you are trying to tell me that beating your spouse or using illegal drugs is worse than dog fighting, that is complete bull****. Micheal Vick is just to good for his own good and people are jealous and want it to stop. It amazes me how in society everyone is for you when you are doing what they want you to do, but the minute one thing comes out then you are the worst thing ever put on the face of the earth. All of these animal rights people who are talking about he needs to be fired are so full of it, because I guarantee that some of them were the main ones cheering for him when the season was going on.

Everyone is innocent until proven guilty and even if he is guilty I say it is still not as bad as everyone makes it seem. As I stated before there are much worse crimes in this world that a man can commit other that dog fighting.

Ericka said...

My feelings about the whole situation is that it is being blown way out of preportion. I am a dog owner and I love my dog, however their are much worse things in this world that Micheal Vick could have done and I believe that the whole thing is just a campaign mainly to ruin his name and reputation. Athletes are caught all the time in possesion of drugs, weapons and even domestic violence and most of them once you hear about it the first time you never hear anything again. So you are trying to tell me that beating your spouse or using illegal drugs is worse than dog fighting, that is complete bull****. Micheal Vick is just to good for his own good and people are jealous and want it to stop. It amazes me how in society everyone is for you when you are doing what they want you to do, but the minute one thing comes out then you are the worst thing ever put on the face of the earth. All of these animal rights people who are talking about he needs to be fired are so full of it, because I guarantee that some of then were the main ones cheering for him when the season was going on.

Everyone is innocent until proven guilty and even if he is guilty I say it is still not as bad as everyone makes it seem. As I stated before there are much worse crimes in this world that a man can commit other that dog fighting.

Ericka said...

My feelings about the whole situation is that it is being blown way out of preportion. I am a dog owner and I love my dog, however their are much worse things in this world that Micheal Vick could have done and I believe that the whole thing is just a campaign mainly to ruin his name and reputation. Athletes are caught all the time in possesion of drugs, weapons and even domestic violence and most of them once you hear about it the first time you never hear anything again. So you are trying to tell me that beating your spouse or using illegal drugs is worse than dog fighting, that is complete bull****. Micheal Vick is just to good for his own good and people are jealous and want it to stop. It amazes me how in society every is for you when you are doing what they want you to do, but the minute one thing comes out then you are the worst thing ever put on the face of the earth. All of these animal rights people who are talking about he needs to be fired are so full of it, because I gurantee that some of then were the main ones cheering for him when the season was going on.

Everyone is innocent until proven guilty and even if he is guilty I say it is still not as bad as everyone makes it seen. As I stated before there are much worse crimes in this world that a man can commit other that dog fighting.

Leena said...

I do not think this has anything to do with him being black, blue, green, or yellow - if u're a sociopath then you're a sociopath and if he is to be a target for criticism then it is for his actions and not for who he is. H.N.I.C - just because the dog was bred for fight it doesnt mean that they should be drowned, electrocuted, slammed to the ground, or starved to death so just because you can fight it doesn't mean that you're suppose to be torture too, and just because these things happen everywhere doesn't mean that you're not suppose to do something to correct it - u're just ignorant. I don't think nobody cares about you shedding or not shedding your tears for the vicious animal, if Vick committed such vicious act, then he deserves it. And if you think these animals are vicious, we humans are so much worst and your temper has just proven it like wise. Just because there are much worst crimes in the world doesnt' mean that we should spare this one and overlook it, ignorance would just make this world a living hell, now its for them, later it'd be for us.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"Just because there are much worst crimes in the world doesnt' mean that we should spare this one and overlook it, ignorance would just make this world a living hell, now its for them, later it'd be for us. "

Ma'am, I'm not even gonna pretend you make sense. But, we dig your name and wonder about your hotness.

Thanks for the comment.

dkry said...

To H.N.I.C.
How ignorant can you be? Just because something is not cute and cuddly does not mean it should be tortured and killed. I bet there is someone in your family that is unattractive should we electrocute them? With your attitude you should probably be the one to be beaten to death the world doesnt need more people with warped minds like yourself. Grow up and be part of the Human Race

dawn said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

Ma'am,

Dawn, not sure why you erased your comment, but we felt obliged to retrieve it.

dawn has left a new comment on your post "Micheal Vick: The Ambush":

HNCI:
If pit bulls are only bred for fighting and killing, why is Vick raising them, except for to fight and kill.
The soon to be felons who we should not believe per the nois are Vick's friends, close enough for him to allow them to use his property. So you are stating that if nothing else Vick is guilty of being an idiot.



Ma'am, not sure what you are saying...but we like your moxie.

What do you look like?

nickie said...

I've just stumbled upon this blog in the interest of reading what people were saying about the whole Micheal Vick scandal. I agree that the American justice system is completely corrupt and it is an obvious fact that the justice system is racist. It is completely absurd, however, to think that the white men that run the justice system sit down and say to one another, "Today we're gonna fuck this specific black athelete for no particular reason other than to fuck the powerful black man." How is a socially conscious minded woman like myself supposed to listen to anything you say when you are clearly one-sided and using unresearched and unfounded information. Furthermore, it is so surprising to me that all these people who claim to care about social issues have neglected to mention the fact that you are clearly a misogynous pig, as evidenced by your inquiring on how "hot" all the females are but responding to all the males with "sir." Perhaps once you see past your own narrow view of things, you'll start to feel compassion for people who actually deserve compassion (like the black men who can't afford fancy lawyers like Vick, or maybe the one's who got by on something other than athletic ability) rather than a poor poor dog-torturing millionaire.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"It is completely absurd, however, to think that the white men that run the justice system sit down and say to one another, "Today we're gonna fuck this specific black athelete for no particular reason other than to fuck the powerful black man.""

Ma'am, you stated the reason.

"How is a socially conscious minded woman like myself supposed to listen to anything you say when you are clearly one-sided and using unresearched and unfounded information. "

You can't claim to be socially conscious minded if you WON'T listen. Essentially, what you are saying is, that if you don't agree with something, you won't listen.

HOW CONSCIOUS OF YOU!

"you are clearly a misogynous pig, as evidenced by your inquiring on how "hot" all the females are but responding to all the males with "sir."

A thoroughly false claim. Read our comments. Anytime we are aware that we are responding to a female commentor, we use "ma'am".

And, even if we didn't why would it be misogynous? That means hatred of women.

Don't call us things if

i. you took a minute and looked thru the blog and could easily see that your claim is WRONG.

ii. you don't know what the word you are calling us means.

"Perhaps once you see past your own narrow view of things, you'll start to feel compassion for people who actually deserve compassion "

And, perhaps if YOU take a second to close your wrong mouth. Stop making ad hominem attacks. And quit masquerading your closed minded opinions as being "socially conscious"....you might learn something.

If racism can crush a famous Negro millionaire...those poor Negroes that can't even afford a lawyer stand ZERO chance.

If you don't at the very least fight to support Vick's right to due process and presumption of innocense...then you are essentially forfeiting any chance those poor Negroes who face a tougher climb than Vick does will ever have at fairness.

Your closed mind is being used as a weapon against yourself and Negroes everywhere.

Wake up from your deep slumber and try to see past your nose.

BTW, what do you look like? Do you look like anyone famous so we can get a better idea?

the unbeliever said...

People have vilified Michael Vick for dog-fighting. I am not a fan of dog fighting… however you make it seem like he committed rape or murder. If Michael Vick was in Mexico, Nicaragua, or many other South American countries this would not even be an issue. And how can we look at training a dog to fight as so bad when we readily accept the training of human beings (usually lower income} whether white black or Hispanic, for boxing, ultimate fighting and the myriad of other sports where the object is to beat your opponent into a concussed state, or cause so much injury and or pain that he submits.
I guarantee you if the government could find a way to make money on dog fighting without animal rights activists going crazy they would. I remember when ultimate fighting was too brutal and was being banned all over the place. But now that it is a lucrative sport it’s all over the country, on TV, DVD and now our children are picking their favorite stars.
With all the corporate sponsorship they want players to act a certain way, and look a certain way (NBA dress code for bench players), and talk a certain way. This whole deal is about money

Brother T said...

"about money"

unbeliever, i don't believe you.

Second_class_citizen_supproting_Vick said...

Look people these are DOGS!!!!! If memory serves me correctly Ray Lewis was on trial for MURDER and left the courthouse to go play on the field...Kobe Bryant was on trial for RAPING A WHITE WOMAN and SODOMIZING her...he left court to go play in the playoffs. Look people lets call a spade a spade. If Vick was just an average Joe working at the Post Office and caught the same misdemeanor cruelty to animals charge, He would get probation and a small fine, but he wouldn't loose his job about it...and he definitely wouldn't be going to jail behind it.
In the news a couple of weeks ago there was a white athelete (the name slips my mind) that plead guilty to Gambling, Money laundering, and Racateerring, but only received probation and a fine beacause it was his 1st offense. Where is Vick's leniancy??? In the 7 years he's played in the League he's kept a pretty clean nose, and I'm sure this is his 1st cruelty to animals charge. This is just a witch hunt for a wealthy black man. The only reason this is such a big deal is because the League would loose a lot of money if they took no action. Animal Rights activist would boycott and protest every game and turn this season into a mighty mess.
What's even more absurd than that is the fact that they have taken all Vick products off the shelves and snatched away all his endorsements...and I thought the trial was set for November 26. He had no other choice than to plea bargin. He had no way of receiving a fair trial when the League and the Media have already tried and convicted him.
I do not condone what Vick has "allegedly" (or is that word just for white people before their trials) done to those animals. I am an animal lover myself, but I am a human being first, and in no way should an animal cost a human his freedom or livelyhood.
If there is such a thing as due process in this country, and African Americans have the same rights as other Americans, then why is Vick going to FEDERAL PRISON for a MISDEMEANOR STATE OFFENSE.

Second_class_citizen_supproting_Vick said...

To Linda:
"The animal abusers are just like child molestors. Prey on the innocent"

First of all WOW!!! I can't believe that you could bring yourself to make such a comparison. First of all one is and animal and one is a human being...so not the same thing. I would definitely be more upset about my child being molested at a daycare, than my dog being abused at a kennel. It takes a special kind of sick to even concieve of penetrating a child's vagina. My dog has actually done shit where I wanted to football punt his little ass to China. I thought it, but didn't do it. I never thought of molesting a child. And furthermore do you really think that pit bulls are innocent? Do you know how many pit bulls, that have not been trained to fight, attack really innocent children every year? Do you know how many of those pitbulls they took from Vick's property that had to be put down, not many. Those that they put down, were killed beacuse their injuries were so bad there was no possible way they could have been saved.
To me dog fighting doesn't constitute abuse. I'm not saying it's right but definitely not abuse. Dogs fight naturally, trained or untrianed. I had a pit-bull/rotweiler mix growing up. She never attacked any humans and fought every dog she ever came into contact with. She simply did not like other dogs. She lived 14 years and died of natural causes. We did not train her to fight or be vicious, she just naturally was towards other dogs. She was a member of our family, with 3 kids in the house. I say that to say you never know what you get with that breed of dog. Some are vicious, some are not, but you definitely cannot call them innocent.
Those dogs were more than likely not abused. Hell they probably ate better than you. They got plenty of exercise & probably didn't even drink tap water. Why would you abuse your money makers. That's just like a Thoroughbred horse. You wouldn't starve it and beat it and expect it to win you money racing...but guess what they do to those horses when they loose.... they shoot them in the head. Greyhounds too. Oh I forgot, those are white spectator sports...that's makes it perfectly legal. Maybe Vick should have been racing greyhounds instead of fighting pitbulls...then he could have done what he wanted to his dogs after they lost.

Second_class_citizen_supproting_Vick said...

What about Deer, Ducks, Quails,and other animals hunted for sport. Are they not as innoccent if not more innoccent than those fighting pitt bulls? Oh I forgot another white mans sport. It's surprising how people can't see the racist undertone behind this whole Vick situation. If they just actually stopped and thought about what was really happenning here they would probably feel a lot different. White folks can kill animals senselessly and mount them on their walls as long as they are not endangered, but black people go to jail for killing those same unendangered animals (pitt bulls in this case). It's such a double standard. Where is the racial equality we faught so hard for in the 60s.
I was really hoping that some black people with a little judicial influence would rally behind Vick, but I see now everybody wants to keep their precious pensions and nominations for the bench so bad, that they left their morals and judicial fairness at home under the spare robe. It's disturbing to know that there are black people who probably could help this kid (23) but are willing to sit back and do absolutely nothing.

farvo said...

for many years,people have been in the same perdicument as vick and i know this personally,but never all the hype,i know of people that has gotten caught with dogs in the pits fighting when they were busted but only got 10,000 dollar fines and probation,white men of state and federal government status have been caught at these jamborees and nothing come of it,not to long ago,a wealthy career crimanal got caught while on life time parole which warranted him a trip straight back to prison,but it did'nt,he is still walking around free as he want to.I have never heard of first time accused getting so crap on them as i have vick.I have been around this thing for a long time and never seen the beat,2 years ago a fight was busted in georgia with some seventy or eighty people getting busted,but only a few got jail time because they where 2&3 time offenders.And as for this race issue,if people knew the history of this dog game they would know this thing started 100's of years ago with white men migrating to the us from ireland,germany Etc,and once in the us they would send back for left behind family members,but in order for them to help them to come to the us,they had to bring the dogs over with them,and thats where all this originatednot the so-called Negro Thugs as some of you like to put it,FOR YOUR INFO READ SOME OF THESE BOOKS,The truth about the american pitbull terrier,or better yet egt on line,and goto john p colby,don mayfield,or maurice carver,these are all fathers of the dog game from many years ago that are dead and gone now but the history of the dog fighting live on through them,and the sad thin is the law enforcement know this but it is still being blame on the blacks and that is dead wrong,i'm not condoning dog fighting,but damn-it stop blaming this age old game on us,you know where it started,you know who is still in controll of it and you can't touch them because it run to deep just like the drug game,SO PLEASE GET OF THE BLACK MANS BACK AND GET TO THE ROOT,MIKE,YOU GOT CAUGHT UP IN A WHITE MANS GAME AND NOW YOU MUST PAY THE PRICE,I'M SORRY,BUT I STILL SUPPORT YOU,FRATERNALLY YOURS,FARVO FOR LIFE.

lookATtheyselfs said...

There comes a time in life when the black community needs to take a good look at its self and quit blaming everthing on others. The facts are that vic BROKE THE LAW plain and simple he has admitted to to it and has PLEADED GUILTY.
There isn't no white plot against him and from reading the other comment posted i think we finely found out who the real racists are how interesting. REMEMBER MALCOM X was against this hate and you killed him not white people.

Daniel Carver's White Hood said...

"There comes a time in life when the black community needs to take a good look at its self and quit blaming everthing on others. The facts are that vic BROKE THE LAW plain and simple he has admitted to to it and has PLEADED GUILTY.
There isn't no white plot against him and from reading the other comment posted i think we finely found out who the real racists are how interesting. REMEMBER MALCOM X was against this hate and you killed him not white people."


boy, i like the cut of YOUR jib! well said.

now, just get you some grammar lessons and some book learning.

it'll be just like putting a tux on a chimp.

yee haw!




wake up WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYTE people.