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Tuesday, September 25, 2007

Vick Town Hall Meeting: Consensus is That It's The Falcons' Fault

ESPN undertook the valiant and much needed task of discussing the culpability and circumstances of Michael Vick's unfortunate fall from grace.

Assembling a panel consisting of Neil Boortz, Terrence Moore, Selena Roberts, and Terrence Mathis, obviously, ESPN intended a panel of the brightest and most relevant personalities available to ensure that a productive discussion would take place, and that a reasonable outcome would result. This was no exercise in futulity, to be sure.

The crowd, not surprisingly since it is Atlanta, was full of Vick supporters. And, we would assume that the pro-Vick applause are reflective of the feelings around the nation.

The discussion was led by Bob Ley and was an informed, interesting and highly necessary endeavor. Necessary, because many still haven't, in their own minds, resolved exactly what transpired. Perhaps the most telling and most pertinant aspect of the meeting was the pro-Vick crowd's response to white panelist Neil Boortz and Selena Roberts.

Both Boortz and Roberts made comments to the effect that the Falcons enabled this. The Falcons never properly took Vick aside early on and laid down the necessary groundwork to ensure he was adapting to his situation properly. Certainly, the informed and reasonable Vick supporting crowd applauded this sentiment. And, more certainly, the white panelists weren't pandering to the melanin rich audience.

It was disturbing when Negro panelists Terrence Moore and Chuck Smith made insinuations that Vick should be held accountable, that he is a grown man and is responsible for his own actions and decisions. Such blatant bojangling was an insult to not only Vick, but every Negro in the crowd.

The crowd, rightfully, scoffed at this notion and found comfort and satisfaction in Roberts' accusation that Vick would not have been treated this way if he were not Negro.

Further showing their understanding of the situation, the crowd booed and mocked a director of the Humane Society who had been invited to speak. It was uplifting to see the crowd denounce the gestapo tactics employed by the Society in publicizing the Vick case.

Terrence Mathis spoke to the value of Michael Vick to the city of Atlanta. A Negro sports icon in the Negro capital city. The crowd agreed that it was inherently wrong and it was tantamount to a slap at the Negro citizens of the city to take him away.

At this point, we stopped watching.

During a commercial, we flipped to Judge Mathis.

He was busy admonishing a young Negro male who felt that he was not required to pay back his debt of borrowed money to his cousin.

The young Negro defendant argued that he had been disadvantaged and made some bad choices. And that he just didn't think it was reasonable that he should be held to his word and forced to pay back his debt.

Judge Mathis broke into some gobbly gook about personal responsibility and that when one makes bad decisions, the person who made the bad decisions is still accountable.

We believe Judge Mathis should watch ESPN's town hall meeting.

Clearly, his outlook needs to change and get in line with the sentiments held in the Negro capital city.

If judges currently seated hold the same notions as this former judge...it's no wonder Vick plead guilty.

64 comments:

Dirty Sanchez said...

Sometimes your understated sarcasm and satire is just sublime. Shame that it is lost on some of the more thick-headed, but well done sir.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

Sir,

'sometimes'?....muthafucka, you betta.....ahem...err...we thank you for your compliment.

Dave the Wave said...

yea, i heard boortz and roberts talking about the falcons enabling this. and the crowd applauded.

the biggest joke about it tho is, that if the falcons had disciplined him for on of the other incidents, the same people who are blaming the team for enabling him would have been bitching that they were singling him out and treating him unfairly.

Jigs.

Don't discipline them and its enabling.

Discipline them and it's racism.

can't win.

blacks in this country life a hypocritical life.

no wonder they can't improve.

Gabby's World said...

"Assembling a panel consisting of Neil Boortz, Terrence Moore, Selena Roberts, and Terrence Mathis; obviously, ESPN assembled a panel of the brightest and most relevant personalities available to ensure that a productive discussion would take place, and that a reasonable outcome would result"........ROFLMBAO! Excellent summary!

lgf said...

NOIS, you did not enjoy the conference? I haven't laughed that hard since watching my Paul Mooney dvd.

Excellent piece nonetheless!


Sir,

'sometimes'?....muthafucka, you betta.....ahem...err...we thank you for your compliment.


lol.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"NOIS, you did not enjoy the conference? "

Sir, oh the conference was...entertaining.

But, we found the message relayed by Judge Mathis to be far more useful than the utterings of the panel and the questions put forth by the crowd.

flubby said...

Judging from the constant shouting and catcalls it seemed that the audience thought the show was emanating from the AMC Magic Johnson Theaters.

ZEKE said...

"Judging from the constant shouting and catcalls it seemed that the audience thought the show was emanating from the AMC Magic Johnson Theaters."

really? sounded more like amateur night at the apollo to me.

Hilarie said...

The conference was only half done. No one had the courage to expose and address the elephant, as it were, in the room. The true and most deserving object of every catcall and expletive, the very author and agent of Vick's demise, who nevertheless all present allowed to slink away. The dog, sirs. The dog. Who else is to blame? Whose very nature is the cause of Michael Vick's shame? Hunt down the dog. Kick a dog for Vick.

Gabby's World said...

I already kicked a dog for Vick.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"The dog, sirs. The dog. "

Ma'am, you make a poignant point.

Sure, a few of the dogs got their comeuppance for their poor performance in the doggie octagon.

But, if the rest hadn't been such damned good fighters, Vick never would have been tempted to do this in the first pace.

The dogs seduced him.

Steven A's Cheese Doodles said...

the meeting was silly. i read somewhere that the hall it was held in was only a fraction full and that espn was out recruiting people to come in even during the show....it seemed like they stacked the audience just to cause controversy. i understand, to some degree the perception that the media has really taken an effort to hammer vick, but the crowd just didn't seem to understand that the HE COMMITTED A FELONY!

come on black people!

the man broke FEDERAL LAWS!

you can't just say "Free Vick", and pretend he isn't responsible..

lgf said...

"it seemed like they stacked the audience just to cause controversy."

I don't think they needed to attempt to stack the audience. It's Atlanta. If you had seen the message board of the Atlanta Falcons concerning the topic , you would see that sentiment displayed by the crowd is echoed throughout the community. I also assume the people on the message board were a different ilk than those at the forum due to the number of disparaging comments about the crowds behavior. Even so, they heartily opposed most blame being put on Vick; as any loyal fan would.

Here are some of the quotes from the message board:

"I like it so far. Although the crowd is obviously incredibly biased. Although I agree with them for the most part."

"I agree with the "enough is enough" comment by RL White

I also agree with the comment "there are players in the NFL that continue to suit up that have done far worse"


"You're right... hasn't the media been very biased?"

"is he being judged unfairly?? OBVIOUSLY"

"Terrence Moore might be the most blatent racist I have seen in a while"

"Terrance Moore thinking: "I'd better say something positive or I'm going to get hit in the head."

My personal fav:

"what he(Terrence Moore) just said goes against almost everything he has uttered about vick the past 2 years...Man if he was a car his transmission would be on the ground for throwing it in reverse that hard"

lol.

"but the crowd just didn't seem to understand that the HE COMMITTED A FELONY!

come on black people!

the man broke FEDERAL LAWS!"


Who cares what the laws are or are not?

You do know it was once legal buy and sell human beings like cars don't you?

Do the penalties fit the crime? Thats the question. Your simpleton logic of 'well, its a felony so it must be...' is only second to 'well, i saw it on t.v. so it must be true.'

Remember, Vick is a first time offender with a long list of civic contributions to the Atlanta community. Of course, that is slopped over.


"you can't just say "Free Vick", and pretend he isn't responsible.."

You assume that the only punishment suitable for this is jail time. how white of you. Why is it that some people are so obsessed with putting people behind bars?

I'm not saying 'let him off.' But c'mon, hes young, cares about the community, and has potential. He didn't kill anybody. Be reasonable.

Steven A's Cheese Doodles said...

"You do know it was once legal buy and sell human beings like cars don't you?

Do the penalties fit the crime? Thats the question. Your simpleton logic of 'well, its a felony so it must be...' is only second to 'well, i saw it on t.v. so it must be true.'"

you're right...i'm wrong.

people should be allowed to do whatever the fuck they want to dogs. with no repercussions. ok?

we should not have any laws or hold anyone accountable for ANYTHING. everyman for himself.

your comparison of slavery to dog abuse is downright STUPID.

what you are proposing are OPPOSITES...slavery was morally wrong, it was legal and became outlawed. killing animals for person enjoyment is morally wrong, so it should be legal???

nice reasoning.

Vick new what he was doing was illegal from the start...HE HID IT!!!

If he was worried about 'the punishment fitting the crime', maybe he should have explored what the possible punishments were BEFORE he willfully broke the law...or maybe he did and didn't give a FUCK and figured since he was Mike Vick, that he was above the law?

"Remember, Vick is a first time offender with a long list of civic contributions to the Atlanta community. Of course, that is slopped over."

sure, that would be relevent...if this was a MISDEMEANOR, but it's a FELONY...there are guidelines which CAN'T be waived!....

"You assume that the only punishment suitable for this is jail time. how white of you. Why is it that some people are so obsessed with putting people behind bars?"

again, you're right...just saying, "come on Mike, stop it" CLEARLY would have been the proper response to his FEDERAL law breaking...cause lord knows, Vicks behavior and lifestyle lend credence to the idea that he was amenable to changing just on suggestions from people outside his inner circle...

"I'm not saying 'let him off.' But c'mon, hes young, cares about the community, and has potential. He didn't kill anybody. Be reasonable."

Bullshit! If he cared about the community he wouldn't have been off committing felonies and then LYING to the face of every single person in his life UNTIL he had NO CHOICE but to tell the truth.

A person that acts like that only cares about themselves.

does he deserve a second chance when he gets out? SURE.

but he has to pay the price. you can absolve him and let him off the hook. but thank got the JUDGE won't.

Steven A's Cheese Doodles said...

"how white of you"

oh, and i'm not white.

but i love how YOU and the people in the crowd all belittle the BLACK MEN that so much as mentioned that Vick is accountable..says a lot about OUR community when YOU belittle me as white for saying he is accountable and all the Vick enablers shout down anyone who says it...

no wonder white america doesn't take us seriously.

lgf said...

"oh, and i'm not white."

I didn't say you were white, i said it was white of you.

Steven A's Cheese Doodles said...

"I didn't say you were white, i said it was white of you."

i never said you said that i am white. i just said i'm not white.

it was an attempt to try to get you to understand that holding people accountable for their actions isn't just white value.

Henry the 8th said...

this was further proof that espn should just be broadcasting sports and recapping games. and nothing more.

lgf said...

"but i love how YOU and the people in the crowd all belittle the BLACK MEN that so much as mentioned that Vick is accountable..says a lot about OUR community when YOU belittle me as white for saying he is accountable and all the Vick enablers shout down anyone who says it..."

I suppose you missed this:

"You assume that the only punishment suitable for this is jail time...I'm not saying 'let him off.'"

I accept your apology.

"people should be allowed to do whatever the fuck they want to dogs. with no repercussions. ok?"

That! Sir! is disgusting! You should be ashamed of yourself.

"your comparison of slavery to dog abuse is downright STUPID.

I was comparing dog abuse to slavery? Really? Are you sure?

You were the one who was relying solely upon the current legal definition of a matter to frame your opinion of it. That, is downright stupid.


"what you are proposing are OPPOSITES...slavery was morally wrong, it was legal and became outlawed. killing animals for person enjoyment is morally wrong, so it should be legal???

I don't even know what this is.
I believe I've already stated my position on the matter quiet clearly. Do you always argue with people who agree with you? I'll just give you a pass on it.


"Vick new what he was doing was illegal from the start...HE HID IT!!!

If he was worried about 'the punishment fitting the crime', maybe he should have explored what the possible punishments were BEFORE he willfully broke the law...or maybe he did and didn't give a FUCK and figured since he was Mike Vick, that he was above the law?"


Sir, regardless of what is going on in the mind of a criminal, the punishment must always fit the crime.

I also find it hard to believe that Mike Vick, or anyone else breaks the law and does so because they think 'they are above the law.' whatever that means.

Yes, bank robbers know that robbing a bank is illegal, but that does not mean we can execute them for robbing a bank and say 'well, you knew the punishment.' again, simpleton logic, Mr. Morals.

"sure, that would be relevent...if this was a MISDEMEANOR, but it's a FELONY...there are guidelines which CAN'T be waived!...."

Felony, misdemeanor, blah, blah, blah. I am looking on this at a person to person level. I am not interested in the legal verbiage. Does this punishment, at this time, for this person, with this background, and for this crime make sense? This is how I prefer to see punishments applied.


"Bullshit! If he cared about the community he wouldn't have been off committing felonies and then LYING to the face of every single person in his life UNTIL he had NO CHOICE but to tell the truth.

A person that acts like that only cares about themselves.

does he deserve a second chance when he gets out? SURE.

but he has to pay the price. you can absolve him and let him off the hook. but thank got the JUDGE won't."


Sir, let us not close our minds to the good in people. It is in you, and me, as much as it is in Michael Vick. We should concentrate on building young men up, and not obsess in locking them up.

"i never said you said that i am white. i just said i'm not white.

it was an attempt to try to get you to understand that holding people accountable for their actions isn't just white value."


my apologies. i thought your response insinuated me calling you white.

and no, holding people accountable for their action isn't just a white value, what would ever make you think i thought that?

Steven A's Cheese Doodles said...

"what would ever make you think i thought that?"

ohh...just the fact that you won't hold him accountable....and yes you say he is...but then you insinuate that sending a guy to jail for running an ILLEGAL gambling operation and killing animals is just wayyyyyy to much of a punishment.

a year or so in jail for breaking all kinds of federal laws is too much?

really????!!!

John Cocktosten said...

I CAN HAS SARCAZM????

Mr Telefone Man said...

"I CAN HAS SARCAZM????"

you are just like those lolcats....SWEET!

lgf said...

"ohh...just the fact that you won't hold him accountable....and yes you say he is...but then you insinuate that sending a guy to jail for running an ILLEGAL gambling operation is just wayyyyyy to much of a punishment.

a year or so in jail for breaking all kinds of federal laws is too much?

really????!!!"



Sir, you do know that the punishments facing Vick were originally intended to be applied to the MAFIA, right? Michael Vick is not the MAFIA. Again, lets be reasonable with his punishment.

I never heard anything about a year or so. I've been hearing far more excessive numbers.

Second, you continue to fail to grasp that I do not care what the government decides to classify as "misdemeanor" or "federal" or "legal" or "illegal".

Third, your attempt to mischaracterize my stance on the matter of Vicks punishment leads me to believe that the 'year or so' isn't really a year or so.

Steven A's Cheese Doodles said...

"Second, you continue to fail to grasp that I do not care what the government decides to classify as "misdemeanor" or "federal" or "legal" or "illegal". "

well, then we have a fundamental problem.

i believe in laws. and believe that if the public disagrees with them, they use the system we have to change them.

you believe in anarchy. you believe in letting the individual decide what is right and wrong.

that would work for maybe 80% of the people in this country, but there are 20% (including vick) that don't know the difference...and the 80% of us that do deserve some sort of protection against letting them work it out on their own...

how am i mischaracterizing your views?

ZEKE said...

"Sir, you do know that the punishments facing Vick were originally intended to be applied to the MAFIA, right? Michael Vick is not the MAFIA. "

really?

here, when i read the statutes...they seemed aimed at stopping people that engaged in illegal dog fighting...go fucking figure!

Dave the Wave said...

"Michael Vick is not the MAFIA."


bullshit. if his jig ass wants to act 'gangsta', then treat him like one!

-illegally funding gambling
-killing
-possible tax code violations
-expecting his cohorts to adhere to a 'code of silence'

sounds like the mafia to me.

string him up!

lgf said...

well, then we have a fundamental problem."

Precisely.

"you believe in anarchy. you believe in letting the individual decide what is right and wrong."

On the contrary. Because I think a different punishment may be appropriate here does not equate to anarchy. at least i don't think.

"i believe in laws. and believe that if the public disagrees with them, they use the system we have to change them. "

I believe in laws too. But there are some I disagree with. Laws, they are just opinion, capable of being wrong.



"how am i mischaracterizing your views?"


"...sending a guy to jail for running an ILLEGAL gambling operation is just wayyyyyy to much of a punishment."

I have said nothing of the sort.

chris said...

amazing article. just amazing. to quote the Guinness guys, "Brilliant!!!!"

Steven A's Cheese Doodles said...

"I have said nothing of the sort."

yawn...you been bitching that his sentence..which he hasn't even received yet..doesn't fit the crime...

Dave the Wave said...

"amazing article. just amazing. to quote the Guinness guys, "Brilliant!!!!""

just what this place needs...another NOIS jock rider...

Steven A's Cheese Doodles said...

"On the contrary. Because I think a different punishment may be appropriate here does not equate to anarchy."

the punishment is gonna be jail...

""...sending a guy to jail for running an ILLEGAL gambling operation is just wayyyyyy to much of a punishment."

I have said nothing of the sort."

ummm...huh?

you have mightly contradicted yourself.

lgf said...

"you have mightly contradicted yourself."

"You assume that the only punishment suitable for this is jail time..."



get it?

lgf said...

Now class, here, does "only" mean not including, or, does it mean in addition to?

Steven A's Cheese Doodles said...

"Now class, here, does "only" mean not including, or, does it mean in addition to?"

oh, so you are saying, he should get something in addition to jail?

weird, cause before you said the punishment was too harsh for the crime...

dance, bojangles, dance...i'll keep setting the beat, and you keep movin' yo feet.

lgf said...

First i must say that i am accustomed to the language of set theory.


"oh, so you are saying, he should get something in addition to jail?

No. I am saying jail time is a possible punishment (of course within reason, and as i said before i have heard numbers in much greater excess than 1 year...)

But, there are also others, and why not at least attempt to explore them instead of the usual rush to lock him up. After all, this is his first brush with the law...

Maybe mix a jail sentence with with something to do with serving the community, something which we know he can do.

I'd like to see his character develop, rather then just put him in a cell, and then release him at some arbitrary point in time.

Steven A's Cheese Doodles said...

"But, there are also others, and why not at least attempt to explore them instead of the usual rush to lock him up."

unfortunately, his first 'brush' with the law wasn't a speeding ticket or shop lifting.

it was being the leader/financeer of a major underground organized crime activity.

but, i agree.

after he is locked up. he should have to do plenty of community service.

lgf said...

indeed it is unfortunate, and given the blood thirsty medias influence upon public opinion, and the tunnel vision mindset of those transfixed upon various legal nomenclatures, it is also unfortunate that the penalty may be out of line with said activity.

J. Baughman said...

The "understated sarcasm and satire" on this site is so sublime, in fact, that this was the first day I was able to determine that it was, for sure, sarcasm. I always suspected it, but it always seemed like something Farrakhanites could really say.

Bravo.

Steven A's Cheese Doodles said...

"indeed it is unfortunate, and given the blood thirsty medias influence upon public opinion"

you're right...cause, you know...when the story first leaked, before the media had the chance to change public opinion...the general outcry was that killing dogs, dogfighting, gambling and tax evasion were all peachy keen.

damned media!

lgf said...

"you're right...cause, you know...when the story"

Oh! heavens no!... the reason for the outcry was clear... its a FELONY!

Dave the Wave said...

"The "understated sarcasm and satire" on this site is so sublime, in fact, that this was the first day I was able to determine that it was, for sure, sarcasm. I always suspected it, but it always seemed like something Farrakhanites could really say."

holy shite!

listen pal...i bet if you took both your hands and reached behind you, that you couldn't find your ass.

Steven A's Cheese Doodles said...

"Oh! heavens no!... the reason for the outcry was clear... its a FELONY!"

or...just maybe...the reason for the outcry is because it's just gross and disgusting and decent people found the actions completely objectionable, even without the media telling them it wrong? maybe? just maybe?

dance some more...you aren't keeping up.

lgf said...

"or...just maybe...the reason for the outcry is because it's just gross and disgusting and decent people found the actions completely objectionable, even without the media telling them it wrong? maybe? just maybe?"

completely objectionable... yea. that is if your un-flagellated sperms actually turn out to be eggs, which i am sure happened to you during the hot flashes you experienced following the Vick case. get the sex change you've always wanted... you now have an excuse, then turn yourself over to the new england journal of medicine and cease from fouling up this message board with your typed excrements.

i will just assume that you were unable to detect the unusual amount of acrimony and trite coverage of the case considering your PMS cycle caused your behavior to mirror those of the peta broads on television.

Steven A's Cheese Doodles said...

"completely objectionable... yea. that is if your un-flagellated sperms actually turn out to be eggs, which i am sure happened to you during the hot flashes you experienced following the Vick case. get the sex change you've always wanted... you now have an excuse, then turn yourself over to the new england journal of medicine and cease from fouling up this message board with your typed excrements."

i'll take your resorting to complete ad hominem and unrelated to the topic attacks as a sign that you no longer care to dance.

oh well.

"i will just assume that you were unable to detect the unusual amount of acrimony and trite coverage "

as i said before...sure.

when the case FIRST broke, BEFORE the media blitz...the general public was sooooooooooo in favor of dog killing, gambling, tax evasion and dog fighting.

yup.

you certainly have your finger on the pulse of the american heartbeat.

cue to you calling me transgendered because i have proven your argument useless...

Henry the 8th said...

lgf, doodles does have a point.

this was considered shitty stuff to do BEFORE the media coverage. And it was a felony BEFORE the coverage.

It wasn't like the media took a sympathetic to the issue crowd an whipped them into a frenzy, man.

lgf said...

"when the case FIRST broke, BEFORE the media blitz...the general public was sooooooooooo in favor of dog killing, gambling, tax evasion and dog fighting.


Oh, I'm sorry... your contention is that the media has no influence on the public... what did i tell you about your typed excrements?


Henry the 8th,

I agree whole heartedly. but, the coverage certainly caused any public figures to shy away from saying anything contrary to the official 'vick is the devil' line (even though you know some of them were like: 'they're just dogs'). Well, that is if you don't have any balls. Hank Aaron defended Vick, not his activities, but he defended Vick (which was not surprising seeing his feelings toward the anti-Bonds hysteria); and several journalists wrote how they received emails from pro athletes which discussed a certain absurdity regarding the issues... and in that way, the coverage has influenced public opinion.

I've already addressed the "felony" word play.

lgf said...

"cue to you calling me transgendered because i have proven your argument useless..."

almost forgot.

tranny.

Steven A's Cheese Doodles said...

"Oh, I'm sorry... your contention is that the media has no influence on the public... what did i tell you about your typed excrements?"

is that my contention? really?

i thought my contention was the public already didn't like killing dogs before the media had to tell them it was not a nice thing to do.
and that people that do it are not nice people.

but, i'll take your word for it.

cause yea, after reading your argument. if it wasnt for the media pointing out to people that people think people that kill dogs and break the law are shitty people...yea..the public probably would have been demanding that the president pardon Vick.

damned media. making killers and criminals look bad to a public that normally doesn't care about stuff like that.


and by the way.

the media reporting doesn't change an important thing.

Vick killed dogs and broke federal laws.

Gonna blame THAT on the media too???

yea, you probably will....

Henry the 8th said...

""I've already addressed the "felony" word play."

yea, but you were wrong.

so...ummm....addressing it really is of no matter."

lgf said...

"Gonna blame THAT on the media too???"

Nope. How can I? Its fact. But I'm sure some of your shameless attempts at gentrification have something to do with the media... or perhaps it has more to do with your freakish desire to enter into the upper echelons of, as you put it, white america.

After all... its a FELONY!

i think they have a pill for that.

But, yea, at least the NFL and some of vicks sponsors would have reacted differently.

"after reading your argument...the public probably would have been demanding that the president pardon Vick."

There's that simpleton logic we're all so familiar with. Welcome back!

lgf said...

almost forgot again.

welcome back, tranny.

Steven A's Cheese Doodles said...

hahaha...your entire argument is based on gentrification...and you wanna throw that stone at me????

LOL

look, you can argue all you want. society, collectively, has deemed that certain crimes are of either a more insidious, hurtful or offensive nature than others.

the crimes Vick committed are among those.

therefore, the set of punishment guidelines that the are directed are more severe than crimes that society collectively has decided aren't as serious or offensive.

if you disagree with the law, write your congressman and get it changed.

bitching about the media reporting on a guy that clearly didn't give a shit about obeying the laws isn't much of a help.

you can try and shift the blame to the falcons...to the media...whoever you want.

Vick fucked up.

Now he has to pay.

your misplace dislike of the media characterizing a guy that lied and was an inhumane law breaker is a joke.

what did you want the media to do? say he broke all these laws, but he has a good heart....

it's funny, check the time lines...the man NEVER did a thing for the community until he started having run ins with the law and his bad behavior could no longer be kept out of sight...check the timelines...

Jeff Reed's blowdryer said...

lgf...you are fighting a losing battle. Vick ADMITTED to the crimes, after having spent months lying to everyone about it.

My question is, if you think the mandated punishments don't fit the crimes, then why weren't all these people speaking out before it was Michael Vick that broke the laws?

No one was complaining that the laws were too harsh before your beloved black QB got caught breaking them.

ZEKE said...

so, vick deserves a lenient sentence because he has been a good guy? no, he hasn't. this is just his first conviction. he has a pattern of poor choices and poor behavior.
but the main reason he doesnt rate leniency is because he is completely insincere. someone sincere about the situation wouldnt have LIED for months and months to their employer, the media, their commissioner, the friends, their lawyer, etc...someone who understood that what they did was wrong would have copped to it and asked for forgiveness BEFORE they got to the point that the case against them was locked up.
you can by into Vick's line of shit all you want. But you are just getting played.

if Vick gave a shit about his fans and supporters, he wouldn't have LIED to them for months and months.

lgf said...

Steven A's Cheese Doodles,

regarding your previous post-- agreed.



but now to a more serious matter...i was so close, it would have been so sweet, imagine, the battle ends with the eternal line:

"Welcome back, tranny!"


... perhaps another day...

"lgf...you are fighting a losing battle. Vick ADMITTED to the crimes, after having spent months lying to everyone about it.

My question is, if you think the mandated punishments don't fit the crimes, then why weren't all these people speaking out before it was Michael Vick that broke the laws?

No one was complaining that the laws were too harsh before your beloved black QB got caught breaking them."


i have no idea. i'm watching diagnosis x now. take care gentlemen.

Dave the Wave said...

it's all a joke.

black folks just no longer want to be held accountable for anything.

look at the Jena Jigs.

almost kill a kid and then want to justify it by changing the issue to something that had nothing to do with the beating.

and, want the charges completely dropped because the originally charges went over board.

what a bunch of shit.

AND, are fighting it being categorized as a hate crime...guess black on white crime just cant be hate crime...

funny thing is, if it's white on black...i bet this lgf character wouldn't be saying, hey, the white guy that did it has never committed a crime before...lets not prosecute him to the full extent of the law, this was just his first mistake, lets give him a chance here....
yea right.

again, you give jigs their way, and you get accused of not doing enough and get blamed for whatever stupid thing they do...

you hold them accountable, and you are a racist.

but, gee...can't figure out why their 'culture' and community are lagging so far behind....it's a mystery.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

Gentleman,

Dare I say that lgf and SACD were able to engage in a discussion that completed outperformed the meeting provided by ESPN?

And, when zeke and dave came into the 'meeting'...well...it was just deja vous all over again.

But somehow, different.

Sportsbruh said...

No one but Selena Roberts was worthy of a seat. Terrance Moore tried to Hog all conversations and other than the aforementioned and Chadila[sp] was professional enough for presentation. In other words, that SHIT was a joke. But kudos to the black people for expressing their anger (which we all know is more directed towards systemic racism than anything).

The Sports Hernia said...

Sir,

I love the 'sir' stuff it get me every time.

Anyways, well done sir.

The Sports Hernia said...

Add Beetlejuice to that panel and ESPN has themselves a show worth watching

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"Add Beetlejuice to that panel and ESPN has themselves a show worth watching"

Sir, 'Beet' may well have come out as the most intelligent Negro voice on the panel...

chris said...

Steven A's Cheese Doodles:

hey jackass, it's the first article i've actually read here. sorry for liking it moron.

Foxxy Brown said...

"blatant bojangling"

Sir,

I sustain headaches if i laugh too hard before breakfast. Please. Some restraint on your part?

Foxxy Brown said...

"Gentleman,

Dare I say that lgf and SACD were able to engage in a discussion that completed outperformed the meeting provided by ESPN?

And, when zeke and dave came into the 'meeting'...well...it was just deja vous all over again."


yes. for a moment i thought i had been inadvertantly re-directed to the Mensa website.