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Tuesday, August 14, 2007

Rutgers Player Suing Imus

Kia Vaughn, the center on the Rutgers women's' basketball team, is suing Don Imus (and the broadcasters) for his derogatory remarks about the Lady Knights.

Vaughn was humiliated, embarrassed and publicly mocked for the comments, the lawsuit claims.

No dollar amount was specified in the suit. And rest assured, despite the announcement of Imus' $20M settlement with CBS earlier in the day, this is about respect.

Vaughn, who was a center, had spoken out about Imus on "The Oprah Winfrey Show" in April. She said that the comments overshadowed her team's amazing season, one the coach has called the most rewarding of her career. "Our moment was stolen from us," Vaughn said then. "Instead of us coming here to enjoy what we accomplished and how far we came, we had to sit back and look at media asking questions about what he said."

And certainly, one would expect that in the world of high profile college sports, nothing would ever overshadow the game. Nothing would detract from the moment for the players.

We can look to men's sports as the precedent. The players always come first. Their experience and the chance to bask in the moment always are the paramount focus building up to any big game. And after big games, they are exclusively allowed the chance to enjoy the moment without any intrusion from the media.

It's only fair for a female team to expect the same treatment. Particularly when the culprit --the moment stealing thief-- is a half-baked, semi-coherent shock jock.

And then, the media scrutiny.

It seems only fair that Imus pay. And pay dearly for what he put these women through and for damaging their reputation.

Calling them "ho's" insinuated that they were prostitutes. And it forced the women to hold press conferences and appear on talk shows to explain. To explain that; no, no they aren't prostitutes. Despite the lewd off handed attempt to be funny by the ancient shock jock, they were wonderful student athletes. Examples for young women everywhere to follow.

The women even had to endure article after article and column after column written in support of their character and demonizing the man that attempted to sully their good name.

We can only imagine the pain these women experienced as they were burdened with the equivalent of a "scarlet letter" hung 'round their collective neck. Imagining that every male eye that gazed upon them was considering, "wonder how much those Rutgers women that I think are prostitutes because Imus called them ho's charge for an around the world?"

We shudder at the thought.

We shudder at the life altering after effects. Clearly, all these girls want is to return to the anonymity they enjoyed before Imus verbally savaged them.

But they can't.

Litigation requires them to file papers. And filing papers means the media will report it.

The damaging cycle created by Imus continues.

"This is about Kia Vaughn's good name," Ancowitz said. "She would do anything to return to her life as a student and respected basketball player -- a more simple life before Imus opened his mouth on April 4."

And clearly, the main step in the healing process is having her lawyer hold a press conference to alert the world to the law suit.

Let the healing begin.

85 comments:

Oops Pow Surprise said...
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Oops Pow Surprise said...

The bigoted mainstream media will be more than happy to continue to equate Kia Vaughn with a prostitute, and they'll bend over backward to continue repeating Imus's derogatory racial epithets. And let us not get started on their inevitable "this nappy-headed h* (sorry, I won't repeat it) is wasting everyone's time and she should be kicked out of court" hack jobs--err, "editorials."

They are as unrelenting in their attempts to marginalize, criticize, and criminalize as a certain NFL commissioner with an ironic last name.

Sebastian said...

No matter the spin, it's the right thing to do. Imus's "wink and nudge" shock jock bigotry finally caught up to him. I'm sure there is a satellite radio contract at the end of his rainbow in 2008. But in the meantime, let's see his high-priced team of attorneys try to dissect and sanitize his statements.

I suppose his attorneys and PR people could go after members of the hoop team. But, outside of Fox News, it doesn't make sense that this would be the logical path for the media to follow.

ZEKE said...

the law suit is BS.

what's next, sue chris rock and other comedians for offensive jokes?

please...these girls actually got more positive attention than they ever would have in this....they got on oprah and and were a front page story....now they want to get a piece of Imus' settlement.

just go away and go back to trying to look like high school boys playing hoops.

NOI rules!!1 said...

"We shudder at the life altering after effects. Clearly, all these girls want is to return to the anonymity they enjoyed before Imus verbally savaged them.

But they can't.

Litigation requires them to file papers. And filing papers means the media will report it."

I'm confused, if all they want is to return to anonymity, and the decision to sue brings them back into the media spotlight, then why would they choose to sue?

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"I'm confused, if all they want is to return to anonymity, and the decision to sue brings them back into the media spotlight, then why would they choose to sue? "

Sir, we've missed you.

You haven't commented frequently lately.

And the above is why we miss you.

Welcome back.

Sebastian said...

Z

99.9% of all college basketball players aren't considered public figures; even after they get dragged against their will into the spotlight. They have legitimate legal defenses against idiots like Imus who choose to slander their names and images.

They didn't angle to be part of Imus's show that day. Didn't have their publicist send the tape in. Additionally, Imus could have called them "chicks" or "gals" or the like. Instead he chose "nappy-headed ho's".

So instead of them being knows as the NC State of women's college basketball, they'll be known as the team Imus called "nappy headed ho's". Thanks Don.

Someone slanders you, you have the right to defend yourself.

Imus opened the door.

ZEKE said...

"Someone slanders you, you have the right to defend yourself."

whats the slander?

what's the actual damage to their reputations?

i'm not saying it's right what Imus did...but please...the guy ain't the first shock jock to call women ho's. comedians do it all the damned time.

and they'd have to prove that more than just there feelings were hurt, no?

it's BS.

total BS.

and you know it.

H.N.I.C. said...

"what's next, sue chris rock and other comedians for offensive jokes?"

The key word in this sentence being comedian, which Imus is in no way shape or form. Chris Rock is a brilliant, poignant, COMEDIAN. Imus is a jackass. BIG difference. Nice try though.

NOI rules!!1 said...
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NOI rules!!1 said...

"Sir, we've missed you.

You haven't commented frequently lately.

And the above is why we miss you.

Welcome back."

How is that a response to my question?

I'm not trying to defend Imus. I'm glad he got fired, he got what he deserved. All I wanted was a simple explanation to my question, not some condescending comment rooted in nothing.

Is this how you expect to spread your "teachings"? By simply dismissing and criticizing anyone who asks a simple question?

Sebastian said...

Z

I can't quantify the concept of "reputation." That's up to a jury to decide. However, you do have the right to defend it.

If the anchor of the 10 o'clock news in your town all of a sudden called your wife, girlfriend, mother or sister a "nappy-headed ho" for no reason and absent provocation, my thinking is that you wouldn't do the mental accounting to determine the relative value of the offense. You'd sue the bastard, or go after him or her physically.

And you know that.

ZEKE said...

"Imus is a jackass."

well, you may be right.

but attempts at humor and outrageousness are a part of his show....it's his version of entertainment...so, we won't call him a comedian. we'll call him an entertainer.

now, i'll ask again...do we sue every entertainer that says something not nice about someone?

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"Is this how you expect to spread your "teachings"? By simply dismissing and criticizing anyone who asks a simple question? "

Sir, we welcomed you back!

We didn't criticize you.

We simply said we missed your confusion.

My goodness.

And you have called us combative?

And we just assumed, that after reading our post, your question was rhetorical!

For a second, we thought you were being the glass clown.

Now we realize.

Here.

Put on the pointy, cylindrical cap and get in the corner.

You haven't been a good pupil today.

ZEKE said...

"If the anchor of the 10 o'clock news"

in that case you may be right...

but it was a shock jock that called them a silly name!
it wasn't a CNN report. or a NY Times article.
it was a buffoon!
you are hurting the girl's case.

maybe you should stop.

NOI rules!!1 said...

You have now dismissed me again and your thinly-veiled sarcasm isn't cute.

"And we just assumed, that after reading our post, your question was rhetorical!"

I just re-read your post, and I'm now half-convinced that it is just a clever post channeling Jonathan Swift.

If you could please answer my initial question, it would most likely clear up the issue. Here, i'll restate it for you:

If all they want is to return to anonymity, and the decision to sue brings them back into the media spotlight, then why would they choose to sue?

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"You have now dismissed me again and your thinly-veiled sarcasm isn't cute."

Sir, thinly-veiled???


"If all they want is to return to anonymity, and the decision to sue brings them back into the media spotlight, then why would they choose to sue? "

Listen.

Why are you asking us?

The young lady and her lawyer is the one that said she wants to return to her previous life.

The young lady and her lawyer are the ones that filed suit and hold press conferences.

Ask them why.

It seems like a contradiction, doesn't it?

Doesn't it?

Well?

Doesn't it?

Yea, thought so.

Ask them.

NOI rules!!1 said...

"It seems like a contradiction, doesn't it?

Doesn't it?

Well?

Doesn't it?

Yea, thought so."

Wow... I am refreshed. Forgive me for not being able to detect the sarcasm at the end of your original post, that was my mistake. I guess it's just that I have come to accept the possibility of people actually believing in such absurdities on this site that I couldn't see through it.

Thanks for clearing it up for me, and I'm honestly sorry.

uncommon sense said...

" guess it's just that I have come to accept the possibility of people actually believing in such absurdities on this site "

dude, you may want to re-read a LOT of nois's post, then...

Sebastian said...

It's not driven by the shock jock. It's driven by the girl not being a public figure. Thus the allegory of the 10 o'clock news anchor. The anchor is a public figure, your loved one or relative is not. That's why comedians can say what they say and not be sued.

You become a public figure, you open yourself up for being the object of satire, rightly or wrongly. People still can't slander you, but they can have fun at your expense.

Now I'll stop. Maybe.

DCThrowback said...

I didn't think you could top Scoop Jackson, but this is even better. Great job, gentlemen/ladies.

Superb work. I still can't believe some of these rubes who comment over here. Actually, they are the gift that keeps on giving!

Burnsy said...

If they had to wear scarlet letters (very appropriate considering the school, sir) would they wear a scarlet N-H or a scarlet H?

I'm not sure which half offended them more, sir.

ZEKE said...

"Now I'll stop. Maybe. "

you really should.

you just made the argument as to why this case has no merit.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"If they had to wear scarlet letters (very appropriate considering the school, sir) "

Sir, see what we did here...and we have to say, it was pretty clever.

We knew that people would be familiar with the classic book, "The Scarlet Letter"...and what we did was...we went and made a slick reference to the name of the schools sports teams, the SCARLET nights.

We didn't capitalize the "s"...but, well, we're glad you got the reference.

Sean O said...

I think it's funny that I didn't know her name before the lawsuit. So the only way that I know that she was slander was by this lawsuit that said she was slandered. She slandered her own name by telling the whole world she had been slandered! It's so slanderous!

She's not going to win a dime. And she shouldn't.

Dave the Wave said...

imus isn't allowed to have an opinion? he can't feel like these women look like nappy headed ho's? really???

so, if some other disc jockey thinks some other athlete is a jerk...and calls him a jerk on the air...the dj can be sued for having an opinion?

look, it may not have been nice or appropriate...but it can't be argued..

when these "women" were playing hoops and didn't have their "hair did"...they looked nappy!

and, in this day and age, it may be derogatory to call a women a ho...but no reasonable person is going to assume that in the context imus used it that he was accusing them of prosititution.

so, the reality is...this chick should be at the hair shop...not the barrister shop.

-diamond dave

Sebastian said...

Diamond

Is Imus supposed to have an opinion? Yes. Should he air his personal opinion on the public airwaves? Perhaps. Should he call a private citizen a nappy headed ho? No.

I'll defend Imus's right to speak any day. But Imus and the other shockers seem to forget about the onus to use the right responsibly.

Dave the Wave said...

"Is Imus supposed to have an opinion? Yes. Should he air his personal opinion on the public airwaves? Perhaps. Should he call a private citizen a nappy headed ho? No."

perhaps?

ummm...the man is paid MILLIONS of dollars to air his personal opinions on airwaves...he is a radio commentor...it is his JOB to do so....LOL...you are kidding, right???

actually, he didn't assault Kia Whatever as a private citizen. He collectively commented on the TEAM.

If he had simply said, "the girls are ugly"...would you say that the case had merit?

In his opinion, they look like nappy ho's.

After Imus made the remark people were making comments about his looks and age....does he get to sue?

you and this girl need to get over it.

Big O said...

I'm pretty sure you can agree that they recieved a billion times more media attention because of Imus. Should the women of Rutgers issue a thank you to Imus instead?

Wow said...

Just to correct you, Sebastian, if I may.

College athletes have been found to be public figures in some instances. Just ask a few players from Maryland's men's basketball team from the late 80s.

With as far as sports have come in the little time since, I'd think this nappy-headed [woman] from Rutgers would get the same treatment.

Doesn't matter anyway. They'll settle. This irreparably slandered girl will get some money.

Can you imagine how differently her life would have turned out had Imus not been so harsh? My heart aches for her.

Sebastian said...

Wow,

Good point.

My Hero Zero said...

Inevitable is the lawsuit to be filed by the Nappihededho (Native American) Nation, who, let's be perfectly honest, are the true victims here...for it is they who have been compared to a womens' basketball team.

I, for one, can think of no greater defamation of character.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"Nappihededho (Native American) Nation"

Sir, we fully support the Injuns in their suit.

Gern said...

I don't get why black people automatically support other black people no matter what they've done. This is apparent in the OJ Simpson case, the Duke lacrosse case, the Michael Vick case and now supporting this ridiculous lawsuit. Honestly, so now comedians can't say anything derogatory? Or maybe it should only be black comedians who can say whatever they want. Think about it, all humor and all jokes are based on gross stereotypes that are funny because they are true! I'd love to get to a place where anyone can say whatever they want about whoever they want. It's free speech and it's supposed to be protected in this country.

Martin said...

Sir, William Sherman supports Kia Vaughn. However, Andrew Johnson scoffs at her lawsuit.

Awful Chief said...

This was outstanding. I look forward to coming back to read more of your well-crafted work in the near future.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

" William Sherman supports Kia Vaughn. "


Sir, you mean William Tecumseh Sherman?

Wasn't he part Nappihededho?

mbros612 said...

Gern, it's simply the culture of victimhood that is the problem. When you get used to it enough, guys like Michael Vick and OJ Simpson become the tortured "victims" of society.

Let's face the facts... I, along with 99% of America had no idea who the hell Kia Vaughn was before she decided to cash in on HAVING HER FEELINGS HURT!!!

Ms. Vaughn was not singled out whatsoever by Mr. Imus, and before this the ONLY person who's reputation was truly damaged by this whole debacle was Imus himself.... no question.

What he said was universally frowned upon, he was dogged heavily in the media, and he lost his job. People like Al Sharpton were calling for his head.

Meanwhile, the Rutgers team got more positive exposure nationally than they EVER would have otherwise. They made an appearance on Oprah and the entire nation sympathized with them.

I, myself, had a great deal of respect for the way these young women handled this... how they would not let a stupid comment by a petty man like Imus keep them from holding their heads high.

Turns out this was no about principles and holding oneself to a higher standard after all, at least not to Ms. Kia. THE VERY SAME DAY Imus settles his contract termination this girl decides to trade her integrity for a piece of his pie. Gee how opportunistic!!!

In reality Kia has only damaged her name by "Ho-ing" it off for some money now. Right Kia, that's the way back to anonymity... put your name out there to the media as the opportunistic money-grubber content with continuing the trend of this new lawsuit happy America.

Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING these women paid lip service to in the wake of Imus' stupid comment about being the better people was just for show. It didn't mean anything to Kia Vaughn, she obviously was seeing green the entire time... just had to wait for the right moment.

Somebody made a negative comment about me the other day, my feelings are hurt. I am just not a strong enough person to deal with this, my life is RUINED. My household name is TARNISHED. Hey wait a minute, let me call my lawyer!!!

Jay said...

I think we're ignoring a few things. First, Imus and his colleagues said many more things than just "nappy headed h-." That was said early on in the exchange, which escalated to more profane and egregious insults.

Secondly, she is suing for her "injury." There is a legal theory called "the egg shell skull." Some dude a long time ago was tapped in the head and his skull fractured. He sued. The judge said you've got to take the dude as he is, egg-shell thin skull and all. So the tapper lost. Kia may have a normal skull but she may not have tough skin. Imus' comments were reckless and even if he simlpy meant to poke at them, Kia, according to this report, was "injured" by his comments.

Whether you agree that she should've been hurt by his remarks because of who he is is a seperate issue from whether or not she was actually "injured."

Kia enjoys the priviledge, just as we all do, to assert her legal rights in court. Let a jury decide what she gets.

Martin said...

"Sir, you mean William Tecumseh Sherman?"

Yes, indeed, sir - possible the greatest of all white devils in that he realized the evil injustice in the world and attempted to start reparations after the Civil War of our deserved land and farm animals, until Andrew Johnson cut him off at the knees.

Mr Telefone Man said...

"Imus' comments were reckless and even if he simlpy meant to poke at them, Kia, according to this report, was "injured" by his comments."

sure thing.

but, what you are overlooking is...they never presented anything as any sort of fact.

i mean, if i have a radio show and think someone is ugly, and i say it. and it ends up hurting their feelings. can i be sued?

if so, our entire society is gravely changed. in that, no one can say anything that might hurt some one with an "egg shell skulls" feelings.

now, if Imus had said, that these women were prostitutes or something that actually maligned them in such a way as to be more than his simple take on their appearance. then different story.

if i were the lawyer here, the first thing i'd want is to know what music, movies and such Kia listens to.

if she listens to rap that uses the work ho. if she watches movies and comedians that use it. clearly, she has an understanding that it is not meant as to interchangeable with prostitute. that it is meant and used synonymously with "chicks", "broads", "bitches"...etc....

the case has no merit.

i agree with zeke or dave or which ever...and shit, that hurts to say...but, if they don't want to be called "nappy"...do your hair!

Martin said...

"if they don't want to be called "nappy"...do your hair!"

You mean, sir, they should assimilate to the white culture and make their hair unnaturally straight, going against what was endowed to them by Allah?

How very racist of you, sir.

Mr Telefone Man said...

"You mean, sir, they should assimilate to the white culture and make their hair unnaturally straight, going against what was endowed to them by Allah?

How very racist of you, sir. "

umm, i'm BLACK. LOL.

and, i didn't say they had to straighten it.

maybe afro puffs. or take a pick to it.

just tidy it up.

is that asking too much?

Dave the Wave said...

"You mean, sir, they should assimilate to the white culture and make their hair unnaturally straight,"

hey, pal. they CAN'T assimilate into white culture.

as long as they have those wide noses, sloping brows and god awful odor.

and that ain't racist. that is scientific fact.

Martin said...

"if they don't want to be called "nappy"...do your hair!"

Erykah Badu scoffs at your notion!

Martin said...

"as long as they have those wide noses, sloping brows and god awful odor."

And yet you, sir, with your small racist brain can figure out how to use the internet. Wonders never cease, sir.

Martin said...

"as long as they have those wide noses, sloping brows and god awful odor."

NOIS, sir, what exactly does it take to get removed from commenting? While I know we foster an open discussion using facts and logic, 'dave' is failing on both accounts, and is now denigrating our proud race. Must we let him light the cross in our front yard, or can we strike first, sir?

Praise be to Allah!

Martin said...

"umm, i'm BLACK. LOL."

Sir, I apologize, but I am confused, how can you not appreciate their individual style choices of not assimilating to the white devil culture of hair care?

Dave the Wave said...

"just tidy it up."

shave it off.

or a nice brush cut.

go ape.

Mr Telefone Man said...

"Sir, I apologize, but I am confused, how can you not appreciate their individual style choices of not assimilating to the white devil culture of hair care?"

combing your hair and looking a hot mess has NOTHING to do with race.

aint you seen the 101 different "black hair and braid" magazines out there????

Doing your hair IS part of black culture.

LOL.

Steven A's Cheese Doodles said...

"go ape."

you never cease to amaze, dave.

Martin said...

"Doing your hair IS part of black culture."

Macy Gray is looking at you with a puzzled look.

Mr Telefone Man said...

"Macy Gray is looking at you with a puzzled look. "

cause she doped up.

mbros612 said...

Dave- can you please post elsewhere if you are only going to write mindless racist comments.

You ruin the credibility of other white posters by making it seem as though we are merely playing devil's advocate here because of race.

My post was not of any racist motive whatsoever, but regarding the disgust I have for opportunistic lawsuit-happy Americans with today's trend of sacrificing integrity and all that is reasonable for the almighty dollar.

Whether this pseudo-celebrity was white or black I would have the same sentiment.

Kia's true motives are so transparent I almost cannot believe anyone could actually say she is doing what is right, and that monetary compensation is the only thing that could make her feel better in her now destitute, broken life. The timing of it is the funniest thing, the same day Imus settled his contract termination.

Give me a break, people. Just like the woman who got millions from McDonalds because she spilled coffee on herself, her life would have never been the same if not for some $$$!!!

Eric's SoulFunkPunk Experience said...

I can also assume that after Imus was fired, you "brave white fans" of Donny Imus sent death threats to these young ladies and they had to get police protection from you 'defenders of Imus's right to slander them". I wish I, Mcqrik, and Rosenberg Imus would have said that about my Goddaughters Vaughn wouldn't had to file a lawsuit because they would be 8 feet under in a nice silver/bronze casket.

And I don't care if people think, I am tired of white boys like Imus, Limbaugh, Grant an savage can say any racist thing they want and get away with it.That type of elementary school logic of 'Sticks and Stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me' is bogus on it's head or we can go to Rwanda, Germany, Sudan or any other place on planet earth.

Since Imus going to get going to get paid and skate away from this racial mess, I see no reason why Vaughn shouldn't sue for the death threats by Don Imus fans like many of you who are angry because she is suing. The moral black mayrtr is so 1960's.

ZEKE said...

"And I don't care if people think, I am tired of white boys like Imus, Limbaugh, Grant an savage can say any racist thing they want and get away with it."

you are SO right, homie!

guys like sharpton and jackson, when they make racist comments (ie, the duke fiasco), it's LEGIT.

too legit. too legit to quit.

come on ya'll.

too legit. too legit to quit.

you are a racist clown, eric.

if you are gonna kill some guy on the radio because he says your daughter (or whatever) is a nappy headed ho...you got real problems.

BTW, YOU, look like a nappy headed bro.

no offense.

Dave the Wave said...
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Dave the Wave said...

"Imus going to get going to get paid and skate away from this racial mess, I see no reason why Vaughn shouldn't sue for the death threats by Don Imus fans "

what?
sue Imus for OTHER people's actions?
man, that would be awesome!!!
can the duke kids now sue Jesse and Al for definitively calling them GUILTY?
awesome!
dreadhead, you need to get a brain transplant. just because YOU have an opinion doesn't mean you aren't stupid.

mbros612 said...

Tired of seeing white boys make racist comments and get away with it??

The three men you cited have all had their reputations destroyed by saying the wrong thing. And it was made very public. What the hell else do you want?

Did Imus not just lose his job? Did Limbaugh not step down from the analyst seat he had based on what was largely an objective comment albeit ill-advised?

Imus did not make $20M because of this incident. He LOST $20M and was able to salvage half of what he would have otherwise made.

I don't see how he got away with anything. Do you want him deported or something for making an off-colored remark on air?? Life in prison perhaps for hurting some feelings??

Anyone who thinks Kia Vaughn won't be thanking her lucky stars that this whole thing happened in the first place if she gets her settlement is out of their mind.

I would bet anything that she saw green from the moment it happened. Obviously she waited until Imus' termination settlement to let the world know how irreparably destroyed she and collect $.

I mean why the hell actually WORK for money when you can make a ton of it freeloading off someone who called you (and not even you specifically) a mean word???

This is the same reason so many people milk the welfare system... why work hard when you can legally have things handed to you. To those lowlifes who are willing to sacrifice integrity for free money, working hard is just something "old school" idiots do!

Amicable MindSet said...

My goodness. There is a rampant brutality in the language here. On both sides of the aisle.

Folks, we have a young girl who lives in America. She is bombarded every day with news reports about the litigious nature of our society. Is it shocking that she is participating?

She has that right.

The judge/court will decide the merit.

Their is no need, and certainly no producitivity in your judging her.

She's done nothing outside of either the cultural norms of society or the legal protocols of society.

I applaud her.

Tripod said...

"This is the same reason so many BLACK, people milk the welfare system... why work hard when you can legally have things handed to you. To those BLACK, lowlifes who are willing to sacrifice integrity for free money, working hard is just something "WHITE" people do! "

there ya go.

i broke through your careful words and put what you are really saying in bold.

why pretend, right?

racist.

mbros612 said...

Rush Limbaugh gets canned for implying that the media is pulling for a dominant black quarterback in today's NFL, suggesting that Donovan McNabb is overrated.

I guess by not having the pants sued off him for his opinion, he skated away from the whole thing unscathed, right Eric?

Meanwhile, we have Michael Irvin say on nation television that Tony Romo's speed must be because he has some slave blood in him -- "his great great great grandmother had to have pulled a stud out of the barn" back in the day... and nothing happens.

In Irvin's case, it was just an inappropriate, outrageous comment on air... ANY white man who suggests anything along those parallels would be CRUCIFIED under the circumstances!!!

In today's insanely politically correct world, anyone who thinks that "white boys" get away with murder while other races suffer are out of their minds.

White people most certainly have the most to lose with all the PC nonsense.

Amicable MindSet said...

"why pretend, right?"

Ouch. That's pretty harsh. Really, go dispell the illusion? If the guy that wrote the original comment chooses to use code and insinuation as his means of saying what he feels, why expose it?

It's like dragging a homosexual out of the closet against his will. If he isn't ready to face his true self, why force him?

And for the guy that wrote the comment. I think you may be right. Institutionalized dependency is a real problem.

Great discourse guys. I'm happy to have found the link that took me here.

Daniel Carver's White Hood said...

"White people most certainly have the most to lose with all the PC nonsense. "

wake up, WHYYYYYYYYYT people!

mbros612 said...

Tripod-

Arbitrarily including race in everything makes YOU the racist. Just because YOU play the race card does not make ME a racist.

I did not even remotely imply anything about race whatsoever in my post. It is people like you who get overly defensive and racial that perpetuate the stereotypes yourself.

Why should it be automatic that I am demeaning all black people by criticizing those Americans who milk the system?

Is there not a plethora of white trash out there living in trailer homes who would rather milk the system (welfare, worker's compensation, etc.) than make an honest living through working hard??? Maybe you want to ignore them, but in my post I know I didn't.

Not to mention their are lazy lowlifes of EVERY race in this country and in the WORLD for that matter.

You do a disservice to your race by inserting your own racial overtones and perpetuating the very stereotypes you obviously hate.

WHY have an actual debate/argument based on facts when you can bring race into the mix on your own accord to call ME a racist-- and end it right there?!?!

How convenient.

Tripod said...

"WHY have an actual debate/argument based on facts when you can bring race into the mix on your own accord to call ME a racist"

predictable and that is why you didn't just label it the way I did the first time....so you would have an out.

"no, i'm not racist, i didn't specifically say BLACK"...HA.

you are all the same. playing language games while you spew your hate for blacks.

nice.

Tripod said...

"You do a disservice to your race by inserting your own racial overtones"

oh, and btw....correct me if i am wrong. but this statement means you assume i am black.

why?


mmmhmmmm....tell me again how you don't make race based assumptions and statements!

Amicable MindSet said...

"oh, and btw....correct me if i am wrong. but this statement means you assume i am black.

why?"

Tripod, i tried to explain before that you can't force someone "out".

They can only come when they are ready.

And mbros...sometimes, it's hard to hide your deepest prejudices.

Maybe it's best to just let them out?

mbros612 said...

Tripod-

Because only a defensive black person would make the kind of assumptions you did to prove I am "in the closet".

Rereading my post I really do not see where you could possibly feel your racial inserts are unquestionably correct, and what I wanted to or would have said.

This is the INTERNET. I can say what I WANT. If I meant it like that, I would have used my own racial overtones!!!! Look at Dave over there, he's not holding back his disdain for black people and he doesn't have to, he is anonymous here.

I take offense in that you are implying I am a mindless racist that equates all welfare scumbags with the black race and vice versa.

Malcom Hex said...

"I take offense in that you are implying I am a mindless racist that equates all welfare scumbags with the black race and vice versa. "

naw, you don't take offense. you relish the chance to pretend to argue it.

Eric's SoulFunkPunk Experience said...

Come to tampa and say it in my face zeke, I am not into MLK love your enemies crap. I was one of those rutgers players and got death threats what would you do call "THE POLICE".Sorry I believe in right to blast your racist white behind myself. Unlike you I don't hide behind a empty face online.

Eric's SoulFunkPunk Experience said...

Dave you are an inferior piece of white waste floating in sewage called life. I could care less what you think about me, yes I am a bigot because I think most White Males in America are racist dumb asses was looking to blame some Al, Jesse or somebody else when it comes to race, they just can't embrace their bigotry.

Every American who lives in this country is a bigot to varying degrees, I don't hide unlike the rest of you who want to use nice words like 'thugs', 'welfare cheats', or whiners. Yes I am SICK AND TIRED or whiteboys always talking racist smack and then claim that they are not. You are damn right McQrik said if anyone called his daughter a hoe he would beat the living crap outta them, I say the same thing and I am a racist.

YOU WHITE BOYS NEED TO STOP SMOKING CRANK !!!! IT DEPRIVES YOUR BRAIN CELLS.

ZEKE said...

"Come to tampa and say it in my face zeke, I am not into MLK love your enemies crap. I was one of those rutgers players and got death threats what would you do call "THE POLICE".Sorry I believe in right to blast your racist white behind myself. Unlike you I don't hide behind a empty face online. "


i saw your pic.

the only thing scary about you is your dirty hair.

if you were such a scary bad ass, whitey would have locked your broke ass up by now. clearly, you don't scare anyone.

Killing someone for saying something about your dirty hair isn't a RIGHT, shithead. You don't have any RIGHT to blast anyone's ass.

Calling out the fact that you have dirty hair ain't racist either. It's a truth of life.

Just like Imus thinking the Rutgers chick looks less than tasty and calling them "nappy ho's" is his perogative.

You from Tampa?

Well, you must have heard of the Freak Show with Orlando on 98.7 in the mornings, right?

When Fiddy Cent had that song with the "i'm a p. i. m. p." line in it those guys wrote a parody that said, "i look like a c h i m p"...

I bet you laughed, didn't ya. Cause it's ok. Since Orlando is black.

If a whitey had written that song your dirty, dreaded head probably would have blown up.

The only racist here is YOU.

Enjoy your dirty life in the projects of S.E. Tampa.

ZEKE said...

" I think most White Males in America are racist dumb asses was looking to blame some Al, Jesse or somebody else when it comes to race"

I just noticed that. and, who is it YOU are blaming about "race"? the white males.

you need a pscychological evaluation.

A low IQ and a bad attitude are no way to go thru life.

Probably explains why you don't have a job.

Amicable MindSet said...

Guys, guys. Againt the brutal language.

You are BOTH so very wrong. I only wish you could BOTH see it.

This is disheartening.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

Zeke-

For you:

"Yakub, maker and creator of the devil. swine merchant, your time is near at hand, fuck with me and your time will be now. Your presence here effects the mind of my people like a fever. You, Yakub, are the bearer of nine thousand nine hundred and ninety nine diseases, evil, corrupt, porkchop-eatin' brain! "

Dave the Wave said...

""YOU WHITE BOYS NEED TO STOP SMOKING CRANK !!!! IT DEPRIVES YOUR BRAIN CELLS. "

hey, 'ric....don't hate white boys because your lead a miserable life. it ain't the average white guys fault you didn't finish high school and cant get a job or afford a comb.

we're on your side. trust me. there is nothing we hate more than seeing mangy, angry black dudes. you guys are business killers. you are property value killers. and you give tourists a bad impression about the rest of america.

if it were up to me, i'd get you an education. a job. and some self respect.

i'm on your side.

Eric's SoulFunkPunk Experience said...

LOLOLOL zeke you make laugh, I don't listen to 98.7 or any low- class fm station(YOU MUST REALLY LOVE THAT "COON RAP) and for your info I live in New Tampa and since 80% of your race purchases 5 Cent and other 'radio rappers' I can safely assume you are a typical low - class whiteboy like "Dave the Wave" smoking crank don't know meaning of water or soap.

ZEKE said...

"I live in New Tampa "


oh, ok. i remember right before i moved from tampa reading about that section 8 housing place they were forced to contaminate New Tampa with...right off 75.

I'm sure the people with jobs there apppreciate you hanging out on the corner all day.

ZEKE said...

"smoking crank don't know meaning of water or soap. "

That makes sense. I'm pretty sure I know what water and soap MEAN.

Did you mean to try to insult me by saying I don't know how to use them?

You are one of those dangerous black guys. The kind that mistakenly think they are smart.

Your grammar gives away your lack of education.

Speaking of soap and water. I can see that your hair must be allergic to it.

Nappy headed ho.

Start a class law suit with your sistah soldiers.

Brother T said...

Eric, you are lowering yourselve to dave and zeke's level.

No reason for it, bruh.

They dragged you down in the mud with them.

Clean up and leave them in the pig pen with each other.

Amicable MindSet said...

Zeke, eric and dave are all WRONG.

Stop, it hurts to see this.

schadenfreudian slip said...

sir, I must admit that I only recognize your sarcasm 75-80% of the time. This entry, and your responses in the comment thread, have moved me to comment for the first time. Bravo my friend. I laughed out loud at least five times reading these. And being 1/16th nappihedidho, I applaud your meaningful and supportive words.

Eric's SoulFunkPunk Experience said...

A judge will decide if this case has merit, considering that Imus fans had sent death threats to the players of Rutgers I see the lawsuit going forward and Imus settling out of court. Brother t you are right about that, I bet 'Dave and Zeke are most likely the same person.

Maybe 'shock jocks' like Imus will learn to control their unruly, violent fans.

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