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Friday, August 24, 2007

More Vick: The Plea

For those confused about the pending Vick plea, that are claiming he is a dog killer, gambler, etc...

Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick will not admit to killing dogs or gambling on dog fights, as detailed in his indictment, when he enters a guilty plea in a Richmond, Va., federal court Monday, a source close to the case has told ESPN. Instead, the one count of conspiracy that Vick will plead to will admit guilt to the charge of interstate commerce for the purpose of dogfighting.

The source told ESPN that Vick's defense team met with federal attorneys Thursday afternoon to determine the "summary of facts" to which Vick will plead, and that his attorneys believed they had a deal. The source said Vick maintains he never killed dogs and never gambled on a dog fight.

So, clearly, if this account proves to be accurate, the Federal government is satisfied with Vick's admission.

One would suspect if the government felt they had such an air tight case against Vick for the gambling and dog killing, that they would either require admission in the plea or pursue trial.

Hopefully, Mr. Vick learns a lesson from this.

And, instead of attempting to regain the fame and glory of football stardom after his incarceration, he returns to private citizenry and stays out of the public spot light.

We would hate that spot light to turn into a laser sight again.

28 comments:

ZEKE said...

so, after monday, this is over right?

no more vick stories....unless they involve his being raped in prison?

lgf said...

zeke: Does that turn you on? homo?

ZEKE said...

"Does that turn you on? homo? "

don't know that it turns me on. but thinking about it does put a smile on my face.

he deserves it.

good question tho!

lgf said...

LMAO!

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lgf said...

You have to love the irony here. These racist organizations under some umbrella called "animal rights" were so keen on advancing their own cause that they decided to make this a case to fit their twisted agenda. the mainstream media did its usual job of story telling and name calling, all the while becoming a tool for the animal rights crowd as they incessantly clubbed the public over the head with a deluge of fabricated majority public outrage stories. no doubt some people weren't taken with dog fighting, but the vast majority were largely neutral on the situation. Week after week it was dog fighting this dog fighting that. Todays events are the equivalent of the "dog fighting" charges being thrown out due to the reaction it will have among those animal rights groups. But now that Vick will never admit to dog fighting, he already looks like a winner, because Vick appears to have beaten the very charges that "so many" people were outraged by. (and by so many people i mean the 50 - 65 year-old white, female crowd, who have now refused to buy any and all FUBU wear, thus removing $.10 from their bottom line)

ZEKE said...

"But now that Vick will never admit to dog fighting, he already looks like a winner,"


right on! he will look like the damned champion of the world...sitting behind those iron bars!

lgf said...

"sitting behind those iron bars!"

Just more street cred. Think of all the White kids who'll run out to buy his jersey... G-G-G-GUNIT!!!!!

lgf said...

Hey, Iron Mike could still draw a crowd well after his legal trouble, and waaaaaaay after his prime. Not that that should be anyones goals, but Vick regaining his stature among fans, that is if it has diminished any appreciable amount to begin with, is not that unlikely. Keep in mind all the people who do say hes fallen with fans happen to be White, from my own observations hes just as much of a 'hero' in the Black community as he ever was, even more so since some see his treatment as unfair...

lgf said...

... that would also be another interesting irony.

NOI rules!!1 said...

good post

NOI rules!!1 said...

on a related note... let's check out a first look at prison mike:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB-3eD_V4JQ&mode=related&search=

NOI rules!!1 said...

(cut off)...mode=related&search=

Mr.Poindexter said...

Vick's sweetheart plea bargain is just the latest example of the two systems of justice we have in this country.One for the wealthy and privileged,for which I guess I should be thankful,and the one the rest of America gets to roll the dice with.
I'm continually amazed at the ability of the upper strata of society to con the other 95% into fighting their fights,whether it's wars in Iraq,the 'death' tax,or rich celebrities misbehaving.

Malcom Hex said...

"One for the wealthy and privileged,for which I guess I should be thankful,and the one the rest of America gets to roll the dice with."

or, as has been pointed out...maybe the feds got what they wanted..they knew they didn't have a real case for anything BUT the conspiracy...so they let him plea out on that....and THEY save their own face by not losing on the other charges.

these type of pleas are a huge reason they have such a high conviction rate.

RockyJasons said...

"One would suspect if the government felt they had such an air tight case against Vick for the gambling and dog killing, that they would either require admission in the plea or pursue trial."


By the time the deal is finished, this is exactly what will happen -- either copping to the whole thing, or going to trial. Mainstream America won't tolerate less.

By the way, did you pick up the report concerning Mr. Vick's father who admitted Mr. Vick kept fighting dogs in the family's back yard and that he (Mr. Vick) held dog fights in the family garage? Also, the father said something about wishing the media would stop "sugercoating" the stories (refering to the dogfighting), that the dog fighting is "Mike's thing" and he knows it?

Mr.Poindexter said...

Yeah,maybe.
Or maybe Vick's attorney earned his money and made it clear to the government the trial would be a referendum on race in America,with the resultant risk that Sherman's march through Atlanta would look like a campfire.
Or maybe since,as we've seen,loyalty is not a valued virtue in the circles Vick frequents,Michael will be telling tales out of school.
Or maybe,like I speculated,it's rich celebrity justice.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"By the way, did you pick up the report concerning Mr. Vick's father who admitted Mr. Vick kept fighting dogs in the family's back yard and that he (Mr. Vick) held dog fights in the family garage? Also, the father said something about wishing the media would stop "sugercoating" the stories (refering to the dogfighting), that the dog fighting is "Mike's thing" and he knows it? "


Sir, we certainly did.

Did you read the ENTIRE story?

Go read it.

And when you are done, we will probably have our post done detailing the impact of it.

Fair enough?

lgf said...

have you considered the prospect that the Feds have more serious matters to deal with than a bunch of guys who like game fighting?

The Lawn Jockey said...

"have you considered the prospect that the Feds have more serious matters to deal with than a bunch of guys who like game fighting? "

really? then why did they spend so much time and effort on the investigation?

lgf said...

"really? then why did they spend so much time and effort on the investigation?"

Well, I'm pretty sure the person doing the prosecuting isn't also wearing overalls digging up Vick's backyard. So they spent time collecting evidence; that is of no concern to the prosecutor.

DamianPBNJ said...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2989824

"Vick agrees and stipulates that these dogs all died as a result of the collective efforts of Peace, Phillips and Vick."

There goes that. However:

"Vick did not gamble by placing side bets on any of the fights. Vick did not receive any of the proceeds of the purses that were won by Bad Newz Kennels," the summary said.

The funny part is, don't you think the NFL is more relieved that he wasn't gambling than if he didn't help kill the losing/injured dogs?

Tripod said...

"Vick agrees and stipulates that these dogs all died as a result of the collective efforts of Peace, Phillips and Vick."

but does that mean that vick admits to hands on killing?

collective efforts? maybe vicks part in the collective effort was providing the property for the killing to take place....

vick brilliantly has avoided admitting he physically killed the dogs.

can't wait for his return. a season or two off will do his body good!

lgf said...

"The funny part is, don't you think the NFL is more relieved that he wasn't gambling than if he didn't help kill the losing/injured dogs?"

Really? Gee. That is surprising considering that the first thing that pops into your mind when you think "animals rights" is NFL.

DamianPBNJ said...

"Really? Gee. That is surprising considering that the first thing that pops into your mind when you think "animals rights" is NFL."

Ha. Just making the point, as you just did, about what the NFL, or any other corporation, priorities are.

RockyJasons said...

" nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...
"why is michael vick going to jail for killing dogs"

Sir, you have made a huge leap here.

He is going to jail for "conspiracy".

Killing dogs?

The government has not charged him with that.

Your lies never cease."

wtfo?

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"wtfo?"


Sir, contributing.

Contributing.

RockyJasons said...

Fair Enough

Mr. Vick clearly admitted today to killing dogs. OK, OK..you say (he says) he participated in a small group collectively responsible for the death of six to eight dogs. You might claim we are arguing semantics, but I say that is killing dogs.

Also, Mr.Vick clearly admitted to gambling at Bad Newz Kennels. OK, OK, he he claims he did not place side bets on the dog fights, but he did claim to fronting all the money for Bad Newz. But you will point out that he did not claim the Bad Newz winnings. Good point--he fronted all the up front money, paid for all the losses, but didn't claim the winnings. Maybe that's not gambling, just stupid.