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Thursday, May 31, 2007

Quarterback Darwinism: Is Notre Dame Evolving?

The last time Notre Dame won a National Championship, their on field general was Negro QB Tony Rice.

Since then, ND has not been a viable contender, despite prancing out a long line of highly tauted, highly recruited QBs.

Coach Charlie Weis has fashioned himself to be "the" quarterback guru, molding Tom Brady into a premiere QB and presenting Brady Quinn as a "viable" franchise QB. Now, Weis is faced with the challenge of starting from ground zero. A QB with virtually no experience.

At the conclusion of spring ball, Weis had this to say about the three front runners:

After concluding spring ball evaluations, Evan Sharpley, Demetrius Jones and Jimmy Clausen remain as the main contenders. Each of these three young men brought something unique to the QB competition. Evan ran the operation the best, Jimmy threw the ball the best, and Demetrius made the most plays. For these reasons, they will compete for playing time.

We've discussed and agreed in the past, that the QB position has evolved into a position that requires definitive athleticism, self confidence and true play making ability. Looking at Weis' comments, and knowing that Weis is fully aware of what Quarterback Darwinism is all about, we can pretty accurately interpret what was said. And, remember, Weis has watched play making Negro QBs win the past two National Championships and he has watched Troy Smith destroy his team and win a Heisman Trophy during the same period.

He said that Sharpley ran the operation best. That is code for "back-up".

Clausen threw the ball the best. That means that the highly recruited Clausen isn't showing the ability to be a field general and has developed that strong athleticism to be a premier college QB yet.

Finally, he said that Jones made the most plays. That means Jones is a play maker. And, as is well documented, the evolution of the position and the unstoppable tide of Quarterback Darwinism require (in addition to the other requisite qualities) a play maker.

Weis wants maximum effort from each of the "candidates". He wants them hungry through summer workouts and preseason camp. No one can blame him for that.

But, his language gives him away.

Notre Dame's return to glory will be made possible by the same key ingredient as their last run to a title.

A play making Negro QB.

Congrats to Demetrius Jones. Touchdown Jesus has his hands up. Dap 'em up!

123 comments:

Andrew said...

I would rather not be rooting for Norte Dame, evolved or not, sir.

anonymous' barbecue grill said...

No doubt the Bossman will be cooking up a mess of grub on me for Coach Weiss. I wonder if de Bossman and Coach will share any of the vittles with Young Demetrius? My heart says yes but my lid says no.

Martin said...

Sir, watching ND employ a proud Negro QB to win is like watching coach KKK employ the use of a proud Negro point guard...in the end, while happy for their enlightenment, you still have to acknowledge the white devil that is the institution.

BoSox Siobhan said...

Perhaps the people at Notre Dame can find another Negro leprauchan to cheer the team to victory.
As much as I hate Notre Dame, I got no end of joy from the Black Irishman. I suspect many alumni did not share my feelings.

GoldenDomeHead said...

"in the end, while happy for their enlightenment, you still have to acknowledge the white devil that is the institution."

you really have NO clue. ND is as progressive racially as ANY institution. Black players and students have been welcome at ND for decades.

We are one of the few elite football programs that has even had a black coach. Michigan, Ohio St., Texas, USC, Oklahoma, Alabama??

So just get off the nonsense that ND is somehow Dukelike.

Martin said...

"We are one of the few elite football programs that has even had a black coach."

Sir, please refresh my memory on the rampant love that was expressed for Brother Willingham? I, sir, only remember when he was run out of town on a rail. Why was it that during Brother Willingham's second season, the talk was of wanting him gone and being fired, but yet when master Weiss was at the same point in his second season with the exact same record, he was offered an unheard of and precedent contract extension?

Also, sir, you use the word 'elite' to describe ND. As always, I quest for knowledge, hence why I ask you so many questions. Can you explain the definition of elite? I was under the mistaken impression that it meant victorious and hallowed. As we still talking about ND fball? I do not recall much ND success as of late, even though the master Weiss hype machine is always going.

T. Willingham said...

"ND is as progressive racially as ANY institution."

Uh...

goldendomehead said...

"Sir, please refresh my memory"

ND is considered one of the bedrock football programs. Don't pretend they aren't. Don't pretend they don't have one of the greatest histories out there. They have their OWN network broadcast deal. No one else does. So please. Kill that noise, joker.

Weis has gone to BCS games in each of his first two seasons. Willingham had a losing record in his second season. So again, kill that noise.

ND HAD to lock Weis up with the NFL banging down the door. Nobody was chasing Ty.

Now, hope you have learned something.

P. Hornung said...

"ND is as progressive racially as ANY institution."

I agree.

goldendomehead said...

"Uh... "


Uhh...you got a CHANCE. You didn't perform. Losing records and not bringing in top recruits = being shown the door.

Just like the WHITE coach that preceded you.

Martin said...

"They have their OWN network broadcast deal."

Sir, so does my local high school team on cable access - does that make the WNBA elite? Just because the masses of white devils want to watch ND does not make them elite. If all it took, sir, were masses of white devils supporting something to be considered elite, then the KKK would be an elite men's organization, no?


"Weis has gone to BCS games in each of his first two seasons. Willingham had a losing record in his second season. So again, kill that noise."

Sir, true at the end of the season, but at the point that coach Weiss was given the extension, he had the EXACT SAME record as Brother Willingham had at that time in his career. Interesting, sir, interesting.

I will not even begin to approach the debacle that was ND in the two BCS games that you build your defense upon.

Martin said...

"Losing records and not bringing in top recruits = being shown the door."

Sir, thank you for the math lesson. May I ask you to help me with another math problem that I do not understand?

(Patsy schedule + losing to the few tough opponents you do have + brutal and embarrassing loss on national TV in a bowl game) * 2 seasons = contract extension * X

Is X = WHITE?

goldendomehead said...

" he had the EXACT SAME record as Brother Willingham had at that time in his career. Interesting, sir, interesting"

You didn't mention the cruxt of the contract. THAT THE NFL WAS ALL OVER WEIS. And the NO ONE was courting Willingham. Understand? Why would ND give Willingham a new and better deal when no one was trying to lure him away???

"I will not even begin to approach the debacle that was ND in the two BCS games that you build your defense upon."

Fair deal. I won't bring up the debacle of the Gator Bowl loss and the losing season that Willingham provide. K?

"Sir, so does my local high school team on cable access"

Then that isn't a "network" deal, is it? No other college team has an exclusive deal with one of the Big Three networks.

Keep playing dumb. You're a natural.

ole miss said...

"ND is as progressive racially as ANY institution.

I agree."

Ouch.

goldendomehead said...

"(Patsy schedule + losing to the few tough opponents you do have + brutal and embarrassing loss on national TV in a bowl game) * 2 seasons = contract extension * X

Is X = WHITE? "

It would be right, but Willingham played the same type of schedule and, after a successful first season; had losing results.

So let's keep X. But make it X = Weis. And lets make Y = Ty.

With all we know, we can accurately say that X > Y.

Martin said...

"Why would ND give Willingham a new and better deal when no one was trying to lure him away???"

Sir, why would ND give Weis a new and better deal when he hadn't performed or won any more games than Willingham?

Sir, we both know the answer. It rhymes with 'white'.

belichek's jock said...

"THE NFL WAS ALL OVER WEIS."

If I was you, I would've let them have him.

Martin said...

"It would be right, but Willingham played the same type of schedule and, after a successful first season; had losing results."

So did Brother Willingham at the exact point when the firing talk of Willingham began, but yet at that exact same point in Weis' career, he was given a contract extension. Why, sir, why?

"With all we know, we can accurately say that X > Y."

Sir, are you trying to perpetuate that white > black? How DARE you, sir.

c. zorich said...

Goldendomehead, why are you so militant?

Martin said...

"ND is considered one of the bedrock football programs."

Sir, I reread your post and realize my mistake. You are correct. ND is the bedrock (synonym: underlying, lower lying, below the surface, under other things) fball program. In my small mindedness, I did not fully appreciate your careful choice of words, sir.

goldendomehead said...

"Sir, why would ND give Weis a new and better deal when he hadn't performed or won any more games than Willingham?"

Obviously, you don't get it.

No one was trying to steal Ty away. Why would ND renegotiate his deal?

NFL teams after Weis. ND wanted to lock him up.

I can see you don't understand how this works.

goldendomehead said...

"ND is the bedrock (synonym: underlying, lower lying, below the surface, under other things) fball program."

Yea, being the second winningest program of all time and having won the most national championships puts them at the bottom.

Martin said...

"ND wanted to lock him up."

Sir, I understand the NFL was allegedly 'after' Weis and we've already documented the racist nature of the No Freedom for black men League.

Look at just ND and what they control in their yard. They had two men, one Black, one white, with the same record at the same point in their career. The Black one they stoked up the fires of the lynch mob to run him out of town. The white one they gave a contract extension too. Why? Racism, sir, racism.

the rocket said...

"c. zorich said...
Goldendomehead, why are you so militant?"

yo, big zor...what up homey?

goldendomehead said...

"Why? Racism, sir, racism."

yea, well. blame ND that they want to be back on top and they gave ty a shot and couldn't deliver.

hopefully, big time schools will learn a lesson from this. don't give marginal black coaches a shot. cause if they fail and you fire them, you will be called a racist college.

you only hurt yourself with your race card slamming.

c. zorich said...

yo Rocket! What it is! Do you think Mark Cuban will hire you and me to do the tv commentary for his new pro football league? With all the air time I got during Coach Ty's firing he HAS to know how well I do on live TV.

belichek's jock said...

I'ma see if Al Sharpton's Banana Hammock wants to roll over by South Bend and get some of that 'Golden Dome Head,' son.

Once you get unlocked from up underneath Herr Wheiss- the Great White Coaching Hope.

the rocket said...

"yo Rocket! What it is! Do you think Mark Cuban will hire you and me to do the tv commentary for his new pro football league? With all the air time I got during Coach Ty's firing he HAS to know how well I do on live TV. "

We gon have mad options, homey.

Cuban talk 'bout a league. And that other rich honk... white guy is talkin 'bout a league, too.

I already told Qadry he need to watch out for my shine.

Cheer Cheer for old Notre Dame, big dawg!!!!

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

Sirs,

I didn't mean to spark a debate over Weis and Willingham (really, there is no debate...ND loves a white coach), I just wanted to congratulate Brother Demetrius on his impending coronation. On being the NEXT great Weis QB creation.

Now, think back a minute.

Between ND's National Championship and the eminent crowning of Brother Demetrius, the last only real season ND was a threat to take it all...Jarius Jackson was the QB. And we know what happened. The Irish were 9-1 and looking HOT. Jackson blew his knee and the Irish lose 10-0 to USC. And then lose in the Gator Bowl.

Al_Sharpton's_Banana_Hammock said...

"I'ma see if Al Sharpton's Banana Hammock wants to roll over by South Bend and get some of that 'Golden Dome Head,' son. "

I'll drive.

If you get the gas.

Word?

Anonymous said...

weis said clearly that he hasn't made up his mind.

this is wishful thinking.

Anonymous said...

Why was it that during Brother Willingham's second season, the talk was of wanting him gone and being fired, but yet when master Weiss was at the same point in his second season with the exact same record, he was offered an unheard of and precedent contract extension?

why...because it is called leverage...ND knew that there were several NFL teams waiting to snap this guy up....willingham had no interest from outside which is why you still dont here anything more about him...not about race here but again you bring it up.

Anonymous said...

your skills never cease...your ability to read into coach weis' words and see exactly what he is going to do is amazing...you have got to be one of the biggest douche bags in america.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"your ability to read into coach weis' words and see exactly what he is going to do is amazing."

Sir, all it takes is reading comprehension.

And we've talked about your deficit in that aread, ad nauseum.

"...you have got to be one of the biggest douche bags in america"

Obviously not.

We can't rid America of the stench of your intellectual stagnation.

pinky_swear said...

amonymous, you need to start up a blog.

do you have one?

steppin' in line said...

"amonymous, you need to start up a blog.

do you have one?"

he's tryin' to take this one

if only we would "take personal responsibility," "stop making excuses," stop "bringing" race into everything, and accept that he knows better than all of us, I'm sure that this blog would be a much 'nicer' place

Anonymous said...

"your ability to read into coach weis' words and see exactly what he is going to do is amazing."

Sir, all it takes is reading comprehension.

So your reading between the lines is equal to reading comprehension...very good..but when i read between the lines on the tom brady story..when you only name white athletes..i am a racist...very good...you are a hypocrite..can you comprehend that??

Martin said...

"not about race here but again you bring it up."

Sir, just because another white dominated league (the NFL) expressed 'alleged' interest in Weis does not explain why, at the exact same point in their tenure at ND, with the exact same record, white Weis was rewarded with a contract extension and Black Willingham was led down the pathway towards being fired.

no, I'm anonymous! said...

"can you comprehend that??"

YOU are lost at sea my friend.

The prerequisite to reading between the lines is reading the lines themselves.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"So your reading between the lines is equal to reading comprehension...very good..but when i read between the lines on the tom brady story..when you only name white athletes..i am a racist...very good...you are a hypocrite..can you comprehend that?? "

Sir, in the Brady story, we referenced another post we made about Brady, Leinhart and Urlacher. Now, how on earth could we have mentioned Negro athletes when we were bringing up a post we made that wasn't about them?

We have plenty of posts on here about Negro athletes if you prefer to read about them over white athletes.

Something for everyone!

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"The prerequisite to reading between the lines is reading the lines themselves."

Sir, we pause at your depth of insight...

Anonymous said...

Sir, in the Brady story, we referenced another post we made about Brady, Leinhart and Urlacher. Now, how on earth could we have mentioned Negro athletes when we were bringing up a post we made that wasn't about them?

Is it true or not that you purposely only named white athletes? why cant you just admit you are hypocritical.

Anonymous said...

Sir, just because another white dominated league (the NFL) expressed 'alleged' interest in Weis does not explain why, at the exact same point in their tenure at ND, with the exact same record, white Weis was rewarded with a contract extension and Black Willingham was led down the pathway towards being fired.

First of all, almost every point made by NOIS on this blog is "alleged"..not too much fact put forth. Weis did have interest from NFL teams...specifically it was reported from the NY Giants. Secondly, Weis was coming from a hugely successful NFL program...which means more spotlight for the university. Willingham was a no-name coach and when a college football program loses that buzz they also start to lose donations. Make this about color if you want but it isnt..like so much of the other stuff you fabricate here.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"Is it true or not that you purposely only named white athletes? why cant you just admit you are hypocritical."

Sir, can you not read.

How is it hypocritical to reference a post we made a few months ago that was about those three men spreading their sperm?

Why would we be obligated to write about others, when...at that point in time, the media was talking about those three men?

Your suggestion, if we understand, is that if a white athlete does something immoral or unsavory...that if we choose to write about it, we are obligated to include examples of Negro athletes doing the same thing?

You, sir, are bat shit crazy at this point.

Why did the media when they reported on Warren Moon or Steve McNair getting DUI not reference white athletes that got DUI's in the same articles?

Answer: BECAUSE THE ARTICLES WERE ABOUT MOON OR MCNAIR!

And our post was about Brady. And we referenced a post about Brady, Leinhart and Urlacher.

Quit playing dumb. You are getting too good.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"not too much fact put forth"

Sir, the areas of this blog which lack the most in the "fact" department...are your comments.

I'm not anonymous, I'M INVINCIBLE! said...

"You, sir, are bat shit crazy at this point."

Sir, 'at this point'?
This seems to be an unnecessary qualifier.

It has come to the point where we can't help but acknowledge the guano.

However, it has been building up all along.

bat_shit said...

"acknowledge the guano"

finally. recognition!

Anonymous said...

How is it hypocritical to reference a post we made a few months ago that was about those three men spreading their sperm?

did you or did you not solely mention those three because they were white??? when the same thing is done to black athletes you are outraged...hence you are hypocritical...i can send you an english to ebonics dictionary to look up the word if you need help.

Unabridged said...

"i can send you an english to ebonics dictionary to look up the word if you need help."

I will save you the trouble.

hyp·o·crite (hĭp'ə-krĭt')
n. 1. White guy.

Anonymous said...

As an aside, I wonder if elijah dukes was watching his mentor on how to behave last night. Sheffield taught him some interesting techniques for how to properly attack an umpire. Maybe Sheff is jealous of the young Dukes restraining order and wants one of his own.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"when the same thing is done to black athletes you are outraged"

Sir, outraged?

Never us.

Outraged would constantly commenting on someone's blog. Ineffectively communicating an outdated thought process and displaying the reading comprehension of an illiterate, 6 toed hillbilly. Getting indignant about being proven wrong on a constant basis.

That would be outraged.

And, btw. Just because YOU say it doesn't make it so. It isn't the "same thing".

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"Sheffield taught him some interesting techniques for how to properly attack an umpire. Maybe Sheff is jealous of the young Dukes restraining order and wants one of his own."

Sir, we may have read somewhere that when Shef was a youth...he was a George Brett fan.

:)

rstiles said...

Don't forget they should have won the title with another African-American at QB - Kevin MacDougald....

Anonymous said...

Sir, we may have read somewhere that when Shef was a youth...he was a George Brett fan.

you have to go all the way back to 1982....well done...plus one could only wonder what would have happened if Brett had the advantage of some of sheff's steroid cream.

willie nelson said...

"Ineffectively communicating an outdated thought process and displaying the reading comprehension of an illiterate, 6 toed hillbilly."

Sir, an affront to hillbillies everywhere.

p. tar said...

one could only wonder what would have happened if Brett had the advantage of some of sheff's steroid cream.


because G. Brett would never bend the rules

Anonymous said...

one could only wonder what would have happened if Brett had the advantage of some of sheff's steroid cream.


because G. Brett would never bend the rules

yes that extra grip he got from the pine tar made him the hitter he was...fool...if he was jacked up on sheff's roids he wouldnt bend the rules he would snap em to bits.

ted_williams said...

"yes that extra grip he got from the pine tar made him the hitter he was...fool...if he was jacked up on sheff's roids he wouldnt bend the rules he would snap em to bits. "

Hitting is all about the grip.

Anonymous said...

Hitting is all about the grip.

so is reality...maybe ya'll need some pine tar.

reality said...

"so is reality...maybe ya'll need some pine tar. "

Anonymous, don't drag me into this.

We've never met.

reality said...

I am all about the grip? Only if she doesn't grab too hard. In your case you might have to replace "she" with "he" in case you are confused.

Mr. Reality, heterosexual

Concerned Group said...

Dear NOIS,

Please put up a new post. Anonymous's pointless rants on this one are starting to drag us down from our otherwise cheerful dispositions.

Signed,

Suicidal Guy, French Guy, Devil Rays fans, FAMU Accounting Dept.

the_rules said...

"because G. Brett would never bend the rules "

Brett is white. We don't apply.

dante's_outferno said...

the NOIS....it's fantastic....

Anonymous said...

Please put up a new post. Anonymous's pointless rants on this one are starting to drag us down from our otherwise cheerful dispositions

my posts are not pointless they stick to the topic and because i dont agree with NOIS' implication that willingham was fired because he was black and Weis wasnt because he was white I am labeled racist. Every failure cannot be written off as a racial thing...that minimizes the times that racism really does exist. You dont get it because screaming fire is the easy way out..too bad. I mean how come nobody cries reverse discrimination when a failure like Art Shell continually gets a crack at NFL coaching jobs.

Stoicly said...

a failure like Art Shell?

Art Shell never did anything to cause the Raiders to fail.

I meant to say, Art Shell never did anything to cause the Raiders to fail.

Oh, it's the same sentence.

Anonymous said...

We've discussed and agreed in the past, that the QB position has evolved into a position that requires definitive athleticism, self confidence and true play making ability.

then why is mike vick one of the worst quarterbacks in the NFL.

Anonymous said...

Art Shell never did anything to cause the Raiders to fail.

I meant to say, Art Shell never did anything to cause the Raiders to fail.

Oh, it's the same sentence.


what a moron

blind leading the blind said...

"what a moron"

Sir, let me break it down for you:
2 possible ways to read the sentence.

"Art Shell" as coach of the Raiders
"never did anything to cause" as in, the problem exists independent of him
"the Raiders to fail" as in, they sucked

OR

"Art Shell" as coach of the Raiders
"never did anything" as in, he just stood there
"to cause the Raiders to fail" as in, if he had done something, they may not have failed.

See, it's a play on words. A little joke. Admittedly, it was not that funny. At least, not until your reply. That was hilarious.

There's two ways to read your reply

Maybe your operating at such an extreme level of subtlety that we cannot comprehend your meaning.

OR

Maybe your momma kicked you down the stairs when you were a baby.

Just as with the Raiders, we may never know which reading is true.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

" i dont agree with NOIS' implication that willingham was fired because he was black and Weis wasnt because he was white I am labeled racist. "

Sir, liar.

We NEVER mentioned anything in our post about that.

We only congratulated Brother Jones on his great spring.

Lies.

That's all you have.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"then why is mike vick one of the worst quarterbacks in the NFL."

Sir, worst?

Now you are lying again.

Stop or we'll tell Big Mama and she'll wash your mouth out with soap.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"Just as with the Raiders, we may never know which reading is true"

Sir, I think anonymous is the epitome of this thought.

Andrew said...

Will LeBron James cement his rep as hoop jesus in Game 6?

Yes...give in to the threadjack!

guilty as charged said...

"Yes...give in to the threadjack!"

you jacked it back- this is a sports blog, rite?

I say, will the Detroit Not-so-Bad Boy Pistons allow themselves to be bitchmade?

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

Sir, LeBron has realized his potential. He found the effort zone.

Anonymous said...

"blind leading the blind said... "

holy shit. a whole bunch of words and you said NOTHING. who are you, Scoop Jackson?

I'm sure we all write the same to you said...

"holy shit. a whole bunch of words and you said NOTHING. who are you, Scoop Jackson?"

Sir, let me be the first to admit I was wrong.

I could never steal your buffoonish thunder.

My ignorance is no match for yours,

as it is born of artifice.

Anonymous said...

" i dont agree with NOIS' implication that willingham was fired because he was black and Weis wasnt because he was white I am labeled racist. "

Sir, liar.

We NEVER mentioned anything in our post about that.

It is what you IMPLIED..you know how you imply that everything has to do with race. Look up the word in the dictionary you bufoon.

Anonymous said...

"then why is mike vick one of the worst quarterbacks in the NFL."

Sir, worst?

Now you are lying again.

Stop or we'll tell Big Mama and she'll wash your mouth out with soap

yes one of the worst..his QB rating is consistently in the lower half of the NFL.

Anonymous said...

"My ignorance is no match for yours,

as it is born of artifice"

you mean it was borne of orifice.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"It is what you IMPLIED..you know how you imply that everything has to do with race. Look up the word in the dictionary you bufoon. "

Sir, read the POST.

We NEVER even IMPLIED it.

We didn't mention Willingham in the post. We didn't mention anything but Weis' words on the QBs.

Again, you are MAKING things up.

Read the post. Read where it said or implied anything to do with Willingham or the coaching change.

We anxiously await your falicitious response.

Liar.

Illiterate.

Take your pick.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"yes one of the worst..his QB rating is consistently in the lower half of the NFL."

Sir, lower half = worst?

Umm...ok. Now we understand why you always derive the incorrect implication from our words...you can't even accurately interpret your own...

Anonymous said...

Sir, lower half = worst?

Umm...ok. Now we understand why you always derive the incorrect implication from our words...you can't even accurately interpret your own...

yes ONE of the worst...see you need to read a full sentence to get its full effect...jackass

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"yes ONE of the worst...see you need to read a full sentence to get its full effect...jackass"

Sir, worst, by definition means THE poorest. There is bad, there is worse, and then their is WORST.

Being in the second half of the league, does not make one of the WORST unless they are near the very bottom.

Vick isn't.

We are getting tired of using your words against you.

Try communicating in grunts or something.

Words confuse you.

Anonymous said...

Sir, worst, by definition means THE poorest. There is bad, there is worse, and then their is WORST.

Being in the second half of the league, does not make one of the WORST unless they are near the very bottom.

He is in the bottom third..sorry big mistake....only 19 quarterbacks in the league with better numbers. One only wonders where he would be without his superior playmaking ability.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"only 19 quarterbacks in the league with better numbers"

Sir, which means 12 with "worse".

Thereby, alleviating the hyperbolic labelling you bestowed on him.

Try and deal in reality.

Anonymous said...

"only 19 quarterbacks in the league with better numbers"

Sir, which means 12 with "worse".

Thereby, alleviating the hyperbolic labelling you bestowed on him.

Try and deal in reality.

Yes you have proven me wrong...Vick is very worthy of the praise he receives as a quarterback...well done. Can we then at least agree he is mediocre at best?

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

""Can we then at least agree he is mediocre at best? "

Sir, yes.

We can agree that his overall performance has been mediocre.


Of course, the root cause is his being trapped in systems that have not tapped effectively into his talents and have (seemingly purposely) underutilized his abilities.

The goal of the previous regimes in ATL seemed to be to get Michael to conform to their system, and not build the system around him.

So, we can definately agree that his performance has reflect his being trapped in a mediocre system.

Anonymous said...

Sir, yes.

We can agree that his overall performance has been mediocre.


Of course, the root cause is his being trapped in systems that have not tapped effectively into his talents and have (seemingly purposely) underutilized his abilities.

The goal of the previous regimes in ATL seemed to be to get Michael to conform to their system, and not build the system around him.

So, we can definately agree that his performance has reflect his being trapped in a mediocre system.

Michael Vick couldnt hit the side of a barn with his passes. A quarterback first and foremost has to throw...maybe he shouldnt be a quarterback?? But i admire your ability to always blame whitey for any shortcomings in a black athlete.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"Michael Vick couldnt hit the side of a barn with his passes"

Sir, good thing he throws to receivers and not barns!

Anonymous said...

"Michael Vick couldnt hit the side of a barn with his passes"

Sir, good thing he throws to receivers and not barns!

He cant hit those either....although i am sure he could find a barn if there were dogfights going on inside.

the bombdiggity said...

"He cant hit those either....although i am sure he could find a barn if there were dogfights going on inside"

or he could find you shovelling hay in it.

Yee haw, redneck.

out of the mouths of babes said...

"you mean it was borne of orifice."

well, this is the cleverest thing you have said in a long time.

and yet, still trite

Anonymous said...

"He cant hit those either....although i am sure he could find a barn if there were dogfights going on inside"

or he could find you shovelling hay in it.

Yee haw, redneck.

Yep we got a lot of rednecks in the northeast...jackass.

the bomdiggity said...

"Yep we got a lot of rednecks in the northeast...jackass"

well, there might not be a lot of rednecks in the North East.

But we definately found a RACIST.

I'd rather be jackass anyday than a socially lost miscreant like you.

been to New Hampshire? said...

"well, there might not be a lot of rednecks in the North East."

Only due to lack of sunshine

Anonymous said...

well, there might not be a lot of rednecks in the North East.

But we definately found a RACIST.

yes i am a racist because i think that when a black athlete does something wrong he should pay for it....NOIS would have you believe there are excuses for everything but there are not. Responsibility and equality work hand in hand...you idiots.

straight facts homey said...

"yes i am a racist because i think that when a black athlete does something wrong he should pay for it...."

naw, homey, that ain't why you are a racist.

you been posting for a few weeks now, screaming 'bout how racism and slavery are in NO way responsible for some of the ills that face black America. You say that since some blacks have made enormous successes, that ALL blacks have the access to it and therefore America is a land of equality.

What makes you a racist is the fact that you refuse to acknowledge the negative historical facts that still to this day play a role.

You are like that Iranian President that says the holocaust never took place

straight facts homey said...

Oh, and you also a racist because in EVERY incident on here that NOIS has pointed out (EVERY) you have said the black athlete should be punished or is guilty...when they ain't even been to trial yet.

But every white one, you give the benefit of the doubt.

That's why you are a racist. And an angry one at that.

Anonymous said...

Oh, and you also a racist because in EVERY incident on here that NOIS has pointed out (EVERY) you have said the black athlete should be punished or is guilty...when they ain't even been to trial yet.

But every white one, you give the benefit of the doubt.

Show me where an example of a white athlete doing something illegal was posted and I defended the athlete?? didnt happen and wouldnt happen.

Anonymous said...

you been posting for a few weeks now, screaming 'bout how racism and slavery are in NO way responsible for some of the ills that face black America. You say that since some blacks have made enormous successes, that ALL blacks have the access to it and therefore America is a land of equality.

Again when did i say that racism and slavery are in NO way responsible..that is NOIS putting words in my mouth. I just dont see how when you have cases of high paid athletes breaking the law, you know by for example threating to MURDER someone, that they should be given a pass. It is bigoted to defend EVERYONE of a certain race just because they are of that race.

straight facts homey said...

"Again when did i say that racism and slavery are in NO way responsible.."

yes you have.

you have said to forget about racism and forget about slavery and fix the problems ourselves.

ok. tell me now. does racism not play a role in the problems of the black community.

just a yes or no answer, man. no qualifying it. yes or no?

bet you aren't willing to just say yes or no.

Anonymous said...

ok. tell me now. does racism not play a role in the problems of the black community.

just a yes or no answer, man. no qualifying it. yes or no?

The answer is yes. I didnt say it didnt play a role. I am saying that personal responsibility also has to play a role. You cannot condone bad behavior by saying "well racism made me do it". If Elijah Dukes threatens to kill his wife you have to say what he did was wrong and not justify it by saying it is the fault of his employer for not giving him enough counseling. Equality means playing by the same set of rules...there are laws and if you break them then you should be punished for doing so. Excuses only allow the behavior to be justified.

straight facts homey said...

"The answer is yes."

I knew you couldn't just answer yes or no. LOL.

You had to go on with your racist rant after it.

Question for you. Where does NOIS ever say that Dukes has NO responsibility at all?

Just like YOU downplay the role of racism in the problems of black society, and try to blame blacks for the problems. It seems NOIS downplays the things YOU want to blame on blacks and focuses on the things YOU don't like to be focused on.

Basically, to me, you are just mad NOIS doesn't share your point of view.

That is called being closed minded.

more anonymous honesty? said...

"yes i am a racist because i think that when a black athlete does something wrong he should pay for it"

that's right. you are and that's one of the reasons why. good job.

if you listen to this guy long enough he makes perfect sense. You just have to be willing to take his quotes out of context and completely ignore his intent.

marco polo said...

"You just have to be willing to take his quotes out of context and completely ignore his intent"

so, you mean...basically do what he does with NOIS' posts?

word mangler said...

"so, you mean...basically do what he does with NOIS' posts?"

yeah, but I'm trying to be helpful!

Anonymous said...

Question for you. Where does NOIS ever say that Dukes has NO responsibility at all?

I think when NOIS labeled him "misunderstood" he pretty much took the responsibility away..wouldnt you agree?? I mean i think his wife understood "I am going to kill you..you are dead" just fine...or at least fine enough to get a restraining order.

misunderestimated said...

'I think when NOIS labeled him "misunderstood" he pretty much took the responsibility away '

I guess by now we shouldn't be surprised at your struggles with the multisyllabic

misunderstood is synonymous with not responsible?

straight facts homey said...

"I think when NOIS labeled him "misunderstood" he pretty much took the responsibility away..wouldnt you agree?? "

you are making a huge leap!

misunderstood means NO responsibility???

wow. just another of example of you actively trying to distort the original post to suit your racist intentions.

Anonymous said...

you are making a huge leap!

misunderstood means NO responsibility???

wow. just another of example of you actively trying to distort the original post to suit your racist intentions.

How is it racist and how can you classify Dukes as misunderstood...does that not minimize what he did??

straight facts homey said...

"How is it racist and how can you classify Dukes as misunderstood...does that not minimize what he did?? "

let me explain for the challenged.

it's racist because you are actively trying to miscontrue what is written to further your agenda of accusing NOIS of saying that black people take no responsibility for themselves.

ok?

and misunderstood doesn't devalue or increase the responsibility.

it means the impetus behind his actions is NOT clear or resolved or maybe his actions were misinterpreted in some capacity.

it is completely unrelated to responsibility.

unless one is trying to erroneously and negligently completely disregard the definition of words to accuse the writer of being a bigot.

face it. you are wrong.

passes the baton said...

Sir straight facts homey, keep hope alive.

Maybe we can reach this anonymous person with some sense one day.

An endless relay of righteousness cannot but prevail.

straight cash homey said...

"An endless relay of righteousness cannot but prevail."

i don't even know what to say.

he isn't even getting one point. he is so blinded by his hatred that he can't see his own self.

righteousness is always the prevailer

shameless optimist said...

"he isn't even getting one point. he is so blinded by his hatred that he can't see his own self."

he keeps coming back, tho

by now he has to know he hasn't got the goods

he isn't going to change anybody's mind on this blog

except maybe his own

then again said...

maybe he just another masochist

straight facts homey said...

"he isn't going to change anybody's mind on this blog"

he can't change anyone's mind if he doesn't understand the POINT of the posts.

if you make comments that are so far off the reality of what is being addressed in the post...how can you hope to change someones mind.

at this point, he should just hope he doesn't continue to look lost.

Anonymous said...

if you make comments that are so far off the reality of what is being addressed in the post...how can you hope to change someones mind.

at this point, he should just hope he doesn't continue to look lost.

i have learned alot from you all...i have learned that bigotry and insults as long as they are not directed at black people are perfectly acceptable. I have learned that on this blog you look up to stellar individuals like gary sheffield and michael vick...i have learned that you are pretty much hopeless.

in the mirror said...

"i have learned that you are pretty much hopeless."

stop looking at me...

Anonymous said...

My opinion of this blog is far different than many of your readers who specifically come here to disagree, where as I come here thinking man I need some place in the world where people my point of view. And you know what our similarities are, is that we are intelligent minorities who can give you something different than what the media forces down your throat. Understand that our opinions are not far off reality, but instead a different perspective than th reality that you choose to live in.
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Now for the millions of you who still proclaim that Weis was being lured by the NFL after his second season, you just have to look at the facts which is that Ty was close to being fired and Weis was getting a new contract. Do you know how much of a gap there is between the two. Even if he wasn't getting fired he was still loved, and Ty was about to get fired...for having the same record. Face it ND is racist.

Frank Leahy's Whistle said...

"And you know what our similarities are, is that we are intelligent minorities"

oxymoron.

"Understand that our opinions are not far off reality, but instead a different perspective than th reality that you choose to live in"

everyone is entitled to an opinion.

but not every opinion is entitled to consideration. yours is a joke.

"Now for the millions of you who still proclaim that Weis was being lured by the NFL after his second season, you just have to look at the facts which is that Ty was close to being fired and Weis was getting a new contract. Do you know how much of a gap there is between the two. Even if he wasn't getting fired he was still loved, and Ty was about to get fired...for having the same record. Face it ND is racist. "


Everyone keeps saying that at the same point in their careers they had the same record. but CW got an extension and Ty got fired.

Yes, CW got an extension. But Ty didn't get fired until he started losing. And he didn't get fired til after a losing season.

Halfway thru his 2d season, the NFL franchises weren't talking about signing Ty away. They were talking about signing away Charlie.

What is racist about it?

ND looks brilliant for not giving Ty an extension. after the half way point of his second season, his program fell apart.

Weiss went to the BCS two years in a row and brought in MILLIONS for ND.

Ty went to the gator bowl and lost to NC State...then did nothing...after starting his career 8 and 0...he went 11-14 in his 25 games and lost FIVE by more than 30 points...in the previous FORTY seasons, ND lost 4 by that many.

Yea, it's racist to fire a guy that lost more games by bigger margins over the course of his final 2 years than the program did over the previous 40.

yea, it's racist to lock a guy up in a contract when teams are lining up like hyenas to take him away. and not to lock a guy up who NO ONE is looking to sign.

The bottom line is that hindsight is 20/20.

In hindsight, ND did the right thing.

It got them back to the BCS for a second straight year. And it got rid of guy that had a great 8-0 start...and then did nothing.

Paul Harvey said...

Notre Dame is racist.

They are racist for giving a white coach a contract extension while a black coach with a similar record was fired a little while later.

But what about this white coach? Since he is white and coaches at ND, he must be racist, right? His staff must be ridiculously white, since he would want to surround himself with others like him, right?

Oh wait.

Mike Haywood, OC. Corwin Brown, DC. Jappy Oliver, D-Line. All black.

Note that the two most important positions after the Head Coach are both occupied by African Americans. These men are very good coaches. Brown, who is as of now untested on the field, is proving his worth as one of the best recruiters in college football. Both of these men could easily have head coaching jobs in 5 years. Weis is practicing the best way to ensure the future of the black Head Coach in football; namely, letting them work their way into it, instead of promoting them quickly so that they are in over their heads far too soon.

Charlie Weis is not racist.

Notre Dame is still racist though. After all, they only graduate 95% of their African American athletes. Schools like Michigan are much more progressive, with their 38% graduation rate.

Oh wait.. it's not racist to care about the future success of your athletes? But using them and then discarding them with nothing but a few years of football is?

Shocking.

Well then. Notre Dame must not have many black players then. They are, after all, the Duke of the Midwest. But wait.. the players who look like they will be starting are almost all black. On the Defense, only Tom Zbikowski is white. Maybe Vernaglia will threaten for a spot, but it doesn't look like it. On offense, if Demetrius Jones (who is amazing on all levels) starts (and believe me he should), then only the line and the TEs will be white. So of 22 starters, only 7 are white? Clear bias against blacks there.

As for the Ty firing being racist... There are many reasons that I do not think this was racially motivated. Hasty, maybe. I do not think he should have been fired until the end of the season. However, Charlie Weis is a better coach. He deserved the extension. That is not what this topic is about, though.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"But what about this white coach? Since he is white and coaches at ND, he must be racist, right? "

Sir, um. Ok.

Since that wasn't something we said.

We'll let you argue with yourself on that.

We love it when people like you come here, read what we say and make suppositional arguments based on NOTHING we said.

Argue the points we made.

Not the ones you would have hoped we made.