They'd have you believe that Terrell Owens is a cancer. That TO is out for TO. That he isn't a team player. That he only cares about being in the news and having all eyes on him.
They'd tell you that he took the joy out of coaching for Bill Parcells last season. That he underachieved and didn't give his best.
They'd tell you a lot of things. But not necessarily the whole story.
Certainly, the crotchety and aging white coach who has a few rings couldn't be the problem. It had to have been the attention grabbing, self-centered and lazy young Negro millionaire. Right?
Not so fast, my brother.
"He has a lot of pride. He's a top receiver, and he's in shape," Jerry Jones said. "It wouldn't surprise me if he had the resolve to do better than he did last year and improve on some things. I'm surprised he's practicing, but I think he's excited about the team we've got, and he just wanted to get involved."
He's talking about TO? The man the media tells us doesn't care about anything but TO? The team cancer? The guy that drove Parcells from coaching? That TO?
And what about TO, the cancer in the locker room?
"It's a little bit more relaxed. I think you can tell that by the atmosphere in the locker room. I don't think I just have to really spell it out for you, but I think it's very evident.", said Owens.
And some teammates concurred with Owens assessment of things. Julius Jones was critical of Parcells as well.
So, despite the media's presentation of things in Dallas. We can inventory the situation rather easily. Last year, with Parcells, Owens spent much of preseason prep time working on rehabbing a leg injury. Working very hard to get ready and be in 100% condition for the season. While Owens recovered and worked diligently on his rehab, Parcells seemed to pace violently and impatiently. Angry that Owens body had the nerve not respond to Parcells' demands to get better and get on the field.
And this year? Owens shows up after off season surgery on his ring finger. Healing ahead of schedule. And he works the full load at mini-camp. His body healing at a faster rate.
You don't have to be a scientist to figure this out. Remove the cancer, and the body can heal.
Owens is still in Dallas. Parcells is gone. The body is healing.
You tell us who the cancer was.
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Sir, while not taking the side of Plantation Foreman Parcells, I am hesitant to believe that Master Jones does not have some ulterior motive or interest here. Master Jones paid quite a bit for TO at the auction and has an investment. If it doesn't work out, who else is going to buy his property off of him? It is cheaper for him to just change out the Plantation Foreman then go into town to the auction.
Sir, you make lucid points.
We would never dispute that the stretchedskinfaced owner of the 'Boys wouldn't do what was best for himself.
We are just pointing out that removing the rotten fish from the Cowboys complex seems to have everyone, particularly TO, breathing fresh air.
Dear NOIS,
Word.
Affectionately,
Robert Kraft
William Belichick
Keyshawn Johnson
"Word."
Ma'am, is bond.
Uhhh, is there some type of code that is spoken on this blog?
All I know is that Owens is a turd...let's see, he didn't get along with Mariucci, Reid, now Parcells...who the hell does he get along with???
Just play the damn game!
FUCK PARCELLS!
Glad the bitch tit overrated slag is gone
"let's see, he didn't get along with Mariucci, Reid, now Parcells...who the hell does he get along with???"
Sir, not getting along with three white men is clearly a sign that TO is a "turd"? If that is the case, I guess every one of my Negro brethren is a "turd" in your eyes? (Except for Wayne Brady - he IS white.)
How very close minded of you, Sir.
"All I know is that Owens is a turd...let's see, he didn't get along with Mariucci, Reid, now Parcells...who the hell does he get along with???"
Sir, Mariucci and Parcells are gone. Reid's success is diminishing.
Coincidence?
"rstiles said...
Uhhh, is there some type of code that is spoken on this blog?"
Sir, oh, btw. Enjoyed your blog.
"let's see, he didn't get along with Mariucci, Reid, now Parcells...who the hell does he get along with???"
Owens was fine during the DeBartelo/Seifert/SYoung/Jerry Rice era. i agree things went downhill fast when the York/Mariucci era began. as a Niners fan, that's when i too caught a nasty (nastier?)attitude towards NFL plantations/masters/
overseers.
it's undeniable that discord has accompanied Parcells on each and every of his NFL journeys. he hasn't gotten along with a single owner for whom he's worked (ok, i'm not aware of conflict w/WMara but i know there was shit betw Parcells and Simms Sr.) when the situation is so bad that the white devil can't fake an united public front? says a lot.
Thanks for the props there Nation of Islam...
I even linked you up on my site
"Thanks for the props there Nation of Islam"
The interviews with Christine Brennan were real good!
"I even linked you up on my site."
Sir, uh...I guess this means NOISb has arrived....kind of....I guess...uhhh....
"I guess this means NOISb has arrived"
Sir, we hat 14 hits today.
Arrived is an understatement.
Parcells has won super bowls...been a winner everywhere he has gone...T.O. has never won a damn thing.
Sir, not getting along with three white men is clearly a sign that TO is a "turd"?
The person who forced T.O. out of Philly was Donovan McNabb..last i checked he was a brother.....you use this blog in any way you can to make idiotic racist points...
T.O. is one of the most overrated players in sports..he lead the NFL last year in dropped passes...musta been Parcells fault too. Again you spin a racism web to cover up for shortcomings.
Sir, Mariucci and Parcells are gone. Reid's success is diminishing.
Andy Reid's eagles won their division last year and advanced in the playoffs..all after their negro quarterback was replaced by a white man. They would have had an even better record if McNabb sat out more games...the real problem is giving players like McNabb and Vick leadership roles...they are much better suited for positions where they are told what to do.
"he lead the NFL last year in dropped passes"
And touchdown catches, don't forget that, sir!
"Parcells has won super bowls...been a winner everywhere he has gone..."
Sir, actually, other than the Giants...and depending on what happens this year and the near future in the Big D...the organizations have done BETTER after he left.
And with the Giants. He was willing to shut his suck and let LT do his dirty. Once Parcells got too big for his britches and decided he was the MAN...things fell apart. If he would have stopped brooding, shut up and let TO do his dirty. The 'Boys might have gone all the way.
And you know this.
"you use this blog in any way you can to make idiotic racist points..."
Sir, YOU bring my points to life.
"Again you spin a racism web to cover up for shortcomings."
All we did was point out that ALL the cowboys seem happy Parcells is gone. From Jones on down to the water boy.
If you take that as racist, I can't help it that you only see black and white. That is YOUR issue. Not an issue with the blog.
Let go of your hate. Racism hurts the racist as much as the victims.
"they are much better suited for positions where they are told what to do"
You mean positions like...like being a commentor on a blog and led around on a leash? Like that?
"he lead the NFL last year in dropped passes"
And touchdown catches, don't forget that, sir!
That had more to do with the play of tony romo than with TO. Great receivers dont drop passes..look at marvin harrison.
Sir, actually, other than the Giants...and depending on what happens this year and the near future in the Big D...the organizations have done BETTER after he left.
That is because he overhauls the organization and through the draft makes the teams better for many years..New England was a laughingstock before he got there and they went to the super bowl and the jets were 1-15 and went to the conference championship. Anyone who actually knows about football sees parcells as one of the greatest motivators and coaches of all time. TO's act wears thin on everyone he plays with...what is your explanation for Donovan McNabb demanding the eagles get rid of TO...is McNabb some kind of white supremist?
TO has not won anywhere!!! He is a crybaby who sells out his teammates in the press and that is why as good as he may be he doesnt last anywhere.
"Great receivers dont drop passes..look at marvin harrison."
Sir, AGREED! And, we too, give Brother Marvin Harrison ALL the credit in Peyton Manning's success.
See, when you prove us, wrong, we readily admit it!
"what is your explanation for Donovan McNabb demanding the eagles get rid of TO"
Sir, show us this. Where did McNabb DEMAND the Eagles get rid of TO?
Or, is this some rumor you are supposing?
We have located NO reports that factualize this.
Step into the real. You live in the hypothetical and the hyperbolic.
"that is why as good as he may be"
Sir, before you said he stunk.
Make up your mind. Or pick ONE voice in your head to listen to.
Jeez. A pscyzophrenic, hypocritical racist. This is getting silly.
You are just jerking our chain right?
You can't possibly be serious with this....right? Joke?
dont be ripping on Peyton Manning..he had to overcome the ultimate handicap of having a black head and still won a super bowl.
Sir, show us this. Where did McNabb DEMAND the Eagles get rid of TO?
Sir, there fued was well documented...look it up...Donovan said one of them had to go...Maybe TO was just upset he had to play with a black quarterback.
"Sir, there fued was well documented...look it up...Donovan said one of them had to go..."
Sir, show me the quote, the one that goes "I demand TO be traded".
Waiting...
"he had to overcome the ultimate handicap of having a black head and still won a super bowl. "
Sir, we never noticed that Manning had a black head.
Thanks for pointing that out.
That is quite a handicap.
"Sir, there fued was well documented...look it up...Donovan said one of them had to go..."
Sir, show me the quote, the one that goes "I demand TO be traded".
Never happened they got along really well...it was the white head coaches fault he got traded from Philly...and from San Fran...that is the only answer you accept. Not the fact that his teammates hated him..that he was a selfish egomaniac and unprofessionally yelled at mcnabb on the sidelines many times. The fact that teams would rather do without his on field talent than deal with him off the field says all you need to know about that jerks character.
And there are too many blacks in the NFL..they make up about 70 percent of the league but only 10 percent of the US population..it is only fair that about60 percent of the black players in the NFL are immediately replaced by white players....these teams shouldnt all be about winning games and making money...representing percentages is the way to go...i have seen your light..oh wise man.
"Not the fact that his teammates hated him"
Sir, several of his team mates came out and said he wasn't the problem. Several supported him.
Please edit your statement to read "some" of his team mates.
Your gross generalization diminishes the relevence and veracity of your commment.
Hyperbole is fine in to make a point. See our comments and posts for excellent examples.
When you substitute hyperbole for fact; you become a liar.
Or in your case, a racist liar.
"i have seen your light..oh wise man."
Sir, you don't.
But the BRAVES did!
:)
"i have seen your light..oh wise man."
Sir, you don't.
But the BRAVES did!
Braves did what they had to do...make a token move to get jesse off their back...this will blow over and the braves will continue to do what they do...put the most TALENTED team they can on the field.
Sir, several of his team mates came out and said he wasn't the problem. Several supported him.
Show me one player in Philadelphia or San Fran who supported him..where are YOUR quotes.
In a broadcast interview, McNabb rehashed some of the low moments of his relationship with his teammate, making fun of Owens' driveway apology and bringing up the race angle.
In November, responding to a question from Michael Irvin during an interview, Owens said Philadelphia would likely be in a better situation if Brett Favre was the quarterback instead of the banged-up McNabb.
"It was like, it's unreal," McNabb said. "That's like me going out and saying, `Hey, if we had Steve Largent. If we had Joe Jurevicius. It was definitely a slap in the face to me. It was a slap in the face because, as deep as people want to go into it, it was black-on-black crime."
TO is a racist!!!!!
By Michael Smith
ESPN.com
(Archive)McNabb said Owens' attitude and approach spread throughout -- and ultimately divided -- the team. The result was a different group in terms of chemistry and camaraderie than the one that went to four consecutive NFC title games from 2001 to 2004. For example, McNabb's annual dinner party for the offense was scarcely attended compared to past years, with several starters skipping the event.
"What I've come to realize, what I've come to see, especially since I've been hurt," said McNabb, who spent the final seven games on injured reserve with a groin injury resulting from a sports hernia and underwent surgery soon after, "[is] seeing guys not trusting the guy next to them. If they're not talking about you publicly or what you're doing or not doing, then 'I'm in the clear.'
Sounds like a cancer to me.
"Show me one player in Philadelphia or San Fran who supported him..where are YOUR quotes."
Sir, in spite of the fact that YOU have chosen to ignore our request to supply the quote in which McNabb unequivocally says "TO must be traded or let go"; we'll obliged.
Just to prove you wrong. Again.
From an old USA today tag;
"Philadelphia Eagles linebacker Jeremiah Trotter said this week he would welcome embattled receiver Terrell Owens back to the team with open arms."
You find your quote yet?
:)
"Sounds like a cancer to me. "
Sir, excellent point.
But, umm...How doe the biased feelings of the QB in Philly, who was in a feud with TO relate to Bill Parcells leaving Dallas being good for the Cowboys?
Clearly, you are MUCH smarter than we. Can you help us with the connection here.
I mean, you were commenting on our post about Parcells being a cancer in Dallas, right?
Thanks.
"Sounds like a cancer to me. "
Sir, excellent point.
But, umm...How doe the biased feelings of the QB in Philly, who was in a feud with TO relate to Bill Parcells leaving Dallas being good for the Cowboys?
you labeled parcells a cancer...when in fact the person you have defended has proven to be the real cancer in every situation he has been in. You arent very smart...you flip thru a thesaurus to try to find more impressive words that mask your empty arguments. TO had problems with Garcia in SF, McNabb and Parcells..basically everywhere he goes and if you dont find mcnabbs comments to be the equivalent of saying the eagles needed to get rid of Owens then you are denser than i thought...and i already thought you were completely dense.
Give it 2 weeks into training camp before he is either bitching about Romo or Phillips..it is just what he does. But keep defending your fine role models like bonds and owens and dismiss jordan and tomlinson...it shows you for what you truly are just someone who hates white people.
"when in fact the person you have defended has proven to be the real cancer in every situation he has been in"
Sir, we are talking about the cowboys. Parcells is removed. Things got better.
Your drudging up perceptions of the past and applying them here is falicious.
This equation involves the 'Boys, Parcells and Owens.
The 'Boys and Owens are still there. Parcells is gone.
Everyone is happy.
Why aren't you?
Sir, we are talking about the cowboys. Parcells is removed. Things got better.
Now you know the inner workings of the cowboys lockerroom. How exactly have things got better yet...we will see if things are better in a few months wont we...see what happens the first time owens doesnt get his way.
so you saying everyone is happy now is just misinformation...taking quotes from a few on the team.
"it shows you for what you truly are just someone who hates white people. "
Hates white people?
What white people (besides your silly self) have I devalued on this thread?
You are the one attacking "certain types" of Negroes and demanding they essentially speak and act like YOU prefer.
That sounds hateful.
And racist.
As I've said. Enjoy your rant. The latest US demographics have come out and over half of kids under age 5 are non-white.
Go down kicking and screaming, tho. It's dignified.
:)
"taking quotes from a few on the team"
At least we have supplied a few quotes.
You simply supply YOUR conjecture and spin.
BTW, you are angrier than any Negro man we've ever encountered.
oh i'm so sorry i've been too busy at work to get knee deep into this discussion and anonymous's ass.
i know it's bad form to comment on a post more than a day after it was published but just a couple of "oh my god do you even know how to do an internet search before you write an ignorant comment" replies before i can move on:
Marriuci was FIRED at the conclusion of the 2002 season. Owens EXERCISED HIS OPTION TO VOID THE FINAL YEARS OF HIS CONTRACT at the end of the 2003 season. The Niners claimed TO's agent missed the deadline for filing some kind of paperwork, and TRIED TO KEEP HIM FROM LEAVING. At some point the Niners traded him to the Titans or the Ravens, i forget which. At same time, TO signed with Eagles. Litigation, litigation, settlement. Win, Owens.
What players supported TO? Until either the blow up with McNabb or the dancing on the Devil's Satanic Star incident, the Royal Descendent of Brigham Young himself repeatedly defended TO's work ethic and ability to be a team player. as did Mr. Rice.
and, since when does Donovan McNabb speak for all present and former Eagles, Niners and Cowdogs? that's just one man's opinion. it's like asking most people what they think of their ex-spouse. interesting how the white commenter chooses as his representative of the Negro NFL players the white media's preferred negro quarterback who eats America's Favorite Soup and grins for the camera.
also note that he had no response to my mention of Parcell's problems w/Kraft and Belichick . . .
"also note that he had no response to my mention of Parcell's problems w/Kraft and Belichick"
Ma'am...also please note:
Despite his taking up much space with "words"; he has essentially had no response to any of the issues at hand.
What is the expression?
Oh yes..."a fart in the wind"...
"BTW, you are angrier than any Negro man we've ever encountered."
I disagree.
Owens EXERCISED HIS OPTION TO VOID THE FINAL YEARS OF HIS CONTRACT at the end of the 2003 season. The Niners claimed TO's agent missed the deadline for filing some kind of paperwork, and TRIED TO KEEP HIM FROM LEAVING.
yes if he opted out the niners could not get anything for him...keep him and trade him was the goal. He also had a verbal agreement to sign with the Ravens and backed out....got ray lewis mad...and you know what happens when ray lewis gets mad....it's OJ time!!!!
and again your insults of donovan mcnabb equate to calling him an uncle tom....why is it that you bring down those of you who are successful...black on black crime man...never ends.
"keep him and trade him was the goal"
Sir, HAHAHAHA.
Once again, you give us YOUR opinion.
Now you are Bill Walsh? Or whoever was running the 9ers at the time?
LOL. You told us the other day how every thing was great with the Braves and how they were doing everything right.
The next day THEY announced they were bringing in Hammering Hank to figure out how to correct their deficiency in a certain area.
You thrive on wrongness.
Weeee. It's fun watching you get your fill of it.
"and again your insults of donovan mcnabb equate to calling him an uncle tom"
Sir, no.
You try to mold our words to fit YOUR definitions.
If we meant to call him an uncle tom, then those would have been the words we used.
We aren't like you.
We don't talk in circles. We don't beat around the bush and insinuate.
Oh, and the other difference....the Braves hiring Hank Aaron to ensure they properly mine Negro talent didn't prove us TOTALLY wrong.
Weeeeee.....more wrongness for anonymous. Enjoy!
Righteous readers, i apologize for giving him another opportunity. [sigh][eyeroll][sigh]
1. and still no response regarding why the two most successful white men in new millenium professional football distanced themselves from Parcells publicly and vehemently. Or his interpersonal difficulties with one of the whitest quarterbacks to ever play in the NFL. the flatness of Favre's ass notwithstanding.
2. "yes if he opted out the niners could not get anything for him...keep him and trade him was the goal. He also had a verbal agreement to sign with the Ravens and backed out....got ray lewis mad...and you know what happens when ray lewis gets mad....it's OJ time!!!!"
i see your non-researching, lacking in reading comprehension, too quick on the "publish your comment button," non-critical thinking . . . self missed the part where i said that the NFL crafted the settlement between the three teams that sent TO to the Eagles and left both the Niners and the Ravens pissed off. if the Ravens could have refused to sign the settlement and gone to court. and, oh yeah, btw, fuck Ray Lewis with Smoot's biggest DD.
"and again your insults of donovan mcnabb equate to calling him an uncle tom....why is it that you bring down those of you who are successful...black on black crime man...never ends."
and again your lack of critical thinking ability prevents you from comprehending what i wrote. in effect, i said that it was interesting that YOU chose McNabb as your spokesperson for the NFL negro athelete, and i theorized that it was because you bit into the media/advertising hype that trained your pliable little "mind" to conclude that, as Donovan belives, thus believes the entire community of the negro NFL. i said nothing about Donovan's character, or whether he believed the hype about himself. i guess i missed the meeting when Jesse Jackson told us negroes what we were supposed to think about Donovan.
and, as a sucessful negro, i can assure you that white people have actively done more to [try to] bring me down more than any Black person has ever thought about. but, thanks for your concern about the successful black folks here who are outthinking you and outwriting you through now, what? about three threads, with prob. over a hundred comments . . .
oooohhhh, look. there's something shiny in the middle of the freeway. run toward the light, carol aaannnnnnnnnnnnnn
strike the "if" before "the Ravens"
sorry
"strike the "if" before "the Ravens"
Ma'am, we can't condone violence.
LOL. You told us the other day how every thing was great with the Braves and how they were doing everything right.
The next day THEY announced they were bringing in Hammering Hank to figure out how to correct their deficiency in a certain area.
You know when the label of racist is hung over anyones what the result will be...like a woman screaming rape..guilty or not people will think you are. The braves are making token moves but will not destroy their extremely successful scouting system. Remember as you said Hank is in Seligs pocket...
Or his interpersonal difficulties with one of the whitest quarterbacks to ever play in the NFL. the flatness of Favre's ass notwithstanding.
Who are the true racists again??
and, as a sucessful negro, i can assure you that white people have actively done more to [try to] bring me down more than any Black person has ever thought about. but, thanks for your concern about the successful black folks here who are outthinking you and outwriting you through now, what? about three threads, with prob. over a hundred comments . . .
Ok educate me...tell me how YOU have been sidetracked or hampered in reaching your so called "success" by the actions of a white person. Give a specific example and if not then how were you able to achieve your goals and the majority of others in your community not able to. I congratulate you on your successes, you have probably show a great deal of iniative and hard work and personal accountablity..too bad most dont follow your example.
Is there a place in the world where you would be afforded more opportunities than you are than in America 2007? thought not.
"You know when the label of racist is hung over anyones what the result will be"
Sir, I've pointed out that YOU are a racist numerous times. It hasn't changed YOUR actions.
The Braves themselves have said they want Aaron to address the situation. I think I'll take the Braves at their word. And dismiss some white supremist view on the situation.
Gee, the GM and VP of the club and the Commish of the league have said they believe they are doing the RIGHT thing. Let's take YOUR view on the situation on this issue over theirs, shall we.
I mean, you were sooooooooo right at the start of this issue.
Oh, wait, no you weren't.
Seriously, aren't you tired of being wrong on this???
Not only have the Braves' ACTIONS proven you wrong. But their WORDS leave NO room for interpretation.
Yet, like Rosie O'Donnell at carpet buffet...you go on and on.
"Is there a place in the world where you would be afforded more opportunities than you are than in America 2007?"
Sir, how do you know what opportunities are afforded anyone but yourself?
You've proven time and time in your comments that you can relate on NO level with any Negro.
Now you can pretend to decide what opportunities are available?
It's ILLEGAL to deny someone housing or employment based on race, gender or religion.
Yet, it happens everyday.
You somehow believe that because there is something called Affirmitive Action that it means the playing field is leveled and everyone has some sort of great opportunity.
As long as racists like you are allowed to exist, the idea that this is the land of opportunity is laughable.
It's ILLEGAL to deny someone housing or employment based on race, gender or religion.
Yet, it happens everyday.
I asked for an example of when it has happened to YOU...a specific example of how racism has stopped you from reaching your goals...and if it hasnt stopped you then why dont you try to apply you methods to your community. What is it about you that makes you so superior to many in your community?
Yet, like Rosie O'Donnell at carpet buffet...you go on and on.
Again it is fine for you to show bigotry to any group you choose..as long as nobody questions the group you belong too...very nice you hypocritcial moron.
"Again it is fine for you to show bigotry to any group you choose..as long as nobody questions the group you belong too...very nice you hypocritcial moron."
Sir, what bigotry?
Ms. O'Donnell is an out and about lezbot.
We simply pointed out that she probably can't get her fill.
How is that bigoted?
Sir, we are going to have to censure you.
You no longer can use the terms racist or bigoted.
At least until you learn how to properly apply them.
Fair enough?
Fair enough.
Sir, how do you know what opportunities are afforded anyone but yourself?
You've proven time and time in your comments that you can relate on NO level with any Negro.
Now you can pretend to decide what opportunities are available?
As long as you continue to pretend that the biggest thing holding african americans back are white people...i can pretend to do whatever i please.
I do know for a fact that every african american in this country has the opportunity for a public tax dollar paid education...in NYC that amounts to about 12,ooo dollars per student per year. Last I checked nobody was standing outside the schools stopping black kids from going in....lack of parental guidance is more likely the cure for them not going in. Have you ever spoken to an inner city public school teacher..thought not...they may key you into reality...they fear for their safety on an everday basis...trying to teach students who know they dont have to be accountable for their actions. That is why white teachers are leaving the city system and the city schools continue to go downhill. Percentage wise the funding for these schools is the same as it was 20 years ago...so what has changed?? again face reality.
Also fact...black students are accepted into major universties with lower high school GPA's and SAT scores than white students with the same socio-economic background. So stop talking about what is not a afforded you and start exploiting all that is.
"Also fact...black students are accepted into major universties with lower high school GPA's and SAT scores than white students with the same socio-economic background. "
Sir, again, you misunderstand what a "fact" is.
A fact is something that is substantiated by relevent proof. In this case, that would be statistics.
You love saying "fact", and then never backing it up.
When you throw out a point of contention, but CAN'T back it up...that is called an opinion.
And, I think in our discourse on the Braves thread, we came to the agreement that, on racial issues, your opinions are inherently wrapped in wrongness.
Well, at least the the Braves' actions and the talking points of their executives proved that your opinions were bronzed in wrong.
So, if you don't mind...When we see you bandy about the word "fact", with nothing but YOUR track record to back it...We'll go ahead and print your words out on a nice sheet of white paper.
And wipe our asses with it.
Sure, it will be rough. But we are sure that the soft nothingness of your ability to cogently argue "facts" will ease the pain.
"Also fact...black students are accepted into major universties with lower high school GPA's and SAT scores than white students with the same socio-economic background. "
Sir, again, you misunderstand what a "fact" is.
A fact is something that is substantiated by relevent proof. In this case, that would be statistics.
You love saying "fact", and then never backing it up.
When you throw out a point of contention, but CAN'T back it up...that is called an opinion.
And, I think in our discourse on the Braves thread, we came to the agreement that, on racial issues, your opinions are inherently wrapped in wrongness.
Well, at least the the Braves' actions and the talking points of their executives proved that your opinions were bronzed in wrong.
So, if you don't mind...When we see you bandy about the word "fact", with nothing but YOUR track record to back it...We'll go ahead and print your words out on a nice sheet of white paper.
And wipe our asses with it.
Sure, it will be rough. But we are sure that the soft nothingness of your ability to cogently argue "facts" will ease the pain.
Ms. O'Donnell is an out and about lezbot.
We simply pointed out that she probably can't get her fill.
How is that bigoted?
Maybe she was tired of waiting in line behind you at the watermelon and chicken buffet...you bigoted retard.
Sir, again, you misunderstand what a "fact" is.
A fact is something that is substantiated by relevent proof. In this case, that would be statistics.
You love saying "fact", and then never backing it up.
Please...you have your head so buried you could probably see China. You selectively respond to things..glossing over the things you are afraid to face. I am not in the midwest somewhere...i write about what i see...because you choose not to see them makes you useless to your community.
"Maybe she was tired of waiting in line behind you at the watermelon and chicken buffet...you bigoted retard"
Sir, if that's the case, all she had to do was ask to pass.
Sure, we are big fans of the watermelon and chicken buffet, but we certainly aren't gluttons.
Again, you didn't demonstrate how that makes us bigots.
:)
"You selectively respond to things..glossing over the things you are afraid to face. I am not in the midwest somewhere...i write about what i see"
Sir, finally, we get somewhere.
An admission that you are writing your impressions and opinions. Not facts.
Excellent. Love making progress like this.
And, now, with this admission coupled with your racism:
It becomes easy to dismiss everything you say as simply racist drivel.
You yourself admit these aren't facts.
This is an excellent breakthrough.
Thanks for that.
"because you choose not to see them makes you useless to your community. "
Sir, we see your point.
The Negro community should instead turn its collective attention to the wild racist ramblings of someone that admits what he says are not facts. And espouses that 400 years of slavery and racism have no effect today.
Touche, sir!
We'll see if we can get a second for this at the next meeting.
The Negro community should instead turn its collective attention to the wild racist ramblings of someone that admits what he says are not facts. And espouses that 400 years of slavery and racism have no effect today.
Again waiting for ONE example of how you have been hindered in reaching any of your goals because of the effects of slavery....speak from your own experience..enlighten me..you must have hundreds of personal examples.
"Again waiting for ONE example of how you have been hindered in reaching any of your goals because of the effects of slavery"
Sir, for hundreds of years Negroes were treated as non-humans.
This was INGRAINED and institutionalized within white American society.
Slaves were freed by and Act of the Government. At that time, did the same act of the government also magically change the ingrained behaviorial attitude in much of white america that Negroes were sub human and inferior?
Or did that sentiment linger and does it still smolder in many white americans?
When slaves were freed, were they immediately given access to equal education. Equal chance at property ownership. Equal employment?
Or where the Negroes either held back by Jim Crow laws? Were separate schools that did little to meet educational needs built? Were colleges especially for Negroes that taught little more than agriculture funded?
If a Negro points these things out as a contributing to the problems that face the Negro community today to a white person...does that white person dismiss the 400 years of history and simply say "whats done is done. sorry bout the boats and the slavery. fix this yourself".
That attitude stops many Negroes from reaching their goals.
For me, that attitude is greatly interefering with my goal of having an intelligent conversation.
It is interefering with my goal of living in a country where people can be reasonable. Where they can look past the color of a persons skin.
It is interefering with my goal of living in a hate free country.
A country in which the descendents of the slave owners don't simply get MAD because the decendents of the slaves aren't successfully "fixing it themselves". But need help.
It is hindering your goals also. Your resentment and anger at Negroes for not agreeing with your manifest that "everything is their fault" prevents you from being rational and logical.
It is hindering your goals because seeing Negroes trying to better themselves somehow leaves you feeling threatened.
And you should feel threatened.
Read the demographic trends of this country.
Your way of thinking is going to be extinct as soon as the baby boomers die out.
"who are the true racists again?"
racists come in all colors.
"Ok educate me...tell me how YOU have been sidetracked or hampered in reaching your so called "success" by the actions of a white person. Give a specific example and if not then how were you able to achieve your goals and the majority of others in your community not able to. I congratulate you on your successes, you have probably show a great deal of iniative and hard work and personal accountablity..too bad most dont follow your example."
1. i'm probably one of the older individuals on this site; i've lived in american society my entire life. i have 3 degrees (2 post-graduate)and i've been in the professional workforce for almost [oh god smite me now] 20 years. there's not enough space on the internets for me to specify the many times the devil has tried to block me. and 99.9999% of them have been people like you who hide their racist belief system behind a facade of neutrality. i can only think of 3 times when the white person openly admitted that their actions/words were racially motivated. for example, i guess it's pretty obvious when someone calls you a "nigger" they have race-based motivations.
thanks for the congratulations. i have achieved my success, i believe, because i have been blessed with brains, communication and critical thinking skills and a personality that enables me to stand up against the devil, be persistent and beat him at his own game. in other words, i'm smarter than the people who try to take me down, i win and i make them sorry that they tried.
I'm gonna tell you something. Somebody messes with me, I'm gonna mess with with him. Somebody steals from me, I'm gonna say you stole. Not talk to him for spitting on the sidewalk. Understand. Now, I have done nothing to harm these people but they are angered with me[.] . . . I pray to god if I ever had a grievance I'd have a little more self respect. ... what are you prepared to do? If you open the can on these worms you must be prepared to go all the way because [i'm] not gonna give up the fight . . .
i'm out - really busy this week. if i don't reply to the next stream of babble, it's not because i can't
thanks for the congratulations. i have achieved my success, i believe, because i have been blessed with brains, communication and critical thinking skills and a personality that enables me to stand up against the devil, be persistent and beat him at his own game. in other words, i'm smarter than the people who try to take me down, i win and i make them sorry that they tried.
first of all you are right. Thank you for backing my point. You are motivated, smart and had the drive and personal accountablity to thrive. If you can do it then obviously there are roads that you have found that most in your community fail to see or dont care to see. You are proof that even with all the racism that exists success is achieveable. You are proof that racism is not enough of an excuse to accept social failure.
"You are proof that racism is not enough of an excuse to accept social failure. "
Sir, and you are proof that racists will find any excuse to proliferate their evil intentions.
Your assumption is that EVERY single Negro that does NOT achieve, has chosen not to try. Has poor values. Is lazy. Is unmotivated.
And that is what makes you a racist.
You ignore circumstance.
Just because someone is stuck in the ghetto doesn't automatically mean they aren't doing their damnedest to get out.
You are a disgusting person.
Your assumption that anyone that has not accomplished great things in life is lazy, is symptomatic of the ivory tower mentality.
You've had no obstacles in your life. Your life is easy. Spare me the BS and made up stories of hardship that will follow.
Sometimes, like when one is sinking in quicksand, the harder you try to get out. The deeper you sink.
Your spot in hell is assured. Devil.
You are the same person that probably spits on homeless people. Or tells them to get jobs. That it is all their own doing that they are homeless.
Discounting that, yes some of them have made no effort at life, but many have been dealt a lousy hand or horrible disadvantages.
You are the person that makes fun of orphans. "Losers, why don't you have parents!"
You are the person that teases "special" kids, "HAHA, you have a mosaicism of the 23rd chromosome..HAHA".
You said years ago, "hey stupid refugees in war torn ethiopia, feed your damn selves!"
Soon, and it will be in your lifetime.
You will be the minority in this land. And your wonderful advantage will all slowly fade away.
And when your children complain that "it's not fair that all the Latino's and the Negroes get the good jobs and educations"...Remember: "Quit Whining and fix it yourself"
You don't even realize it.
People like you, that refuse to acknowledge what is going on and what has gone on in this country. That say "racism effects nothing", you are the reason this country is changing so. Look around you. White families have 1 or 2 kids. Negro and Latin families have 3, 4, 5 or more...
People like you have made it abundantly clear. You are not interested in reason. You are not interested in acknowledging that this country's history has negatively impacted this country's today.
You have chosen to fight tooth and nail against minorities. Your "tough love" and strictly "boot straps" mentality, in which YOU place ALL blame on the disadvantaged is causing this country to change.
Minorities are ACTIVELY working towards unseating YOU through proliferation.
And, racists like you have brought this country to the tipping point. In America, there are more non-whites under 5 years of age than whites.
You choose not to be reasonable. Not to work towards a better America through addressing the problems the racist and slave owning history of this country have left.
And, as a result, in your lifetime, you are going to feel what generations of minorities have felt in this country. Frustration and futility of effort.
And please, when it happens. Let's not call it racism. Cause,as you have so eloquently pointed out. Racism has no effect on success in the USA.
People like you, that refuse to acknowledge what is going on and what has gone on in this country. That say "racism effects nothing", you are the reason this country is changing so. Look around you. White families have 1 or 2 kids. Negro and Latin families have 3, 4, 5 or more...
that is because white families generally choose to have the amount of children they can take care of...flooding the population with fatherless children does not make a population stronger..it will just be a case of the many relying on the few to get them by. 70 percent my friend..the vicious cycle as you say doesnt end overnight and this cycle is only spinning deeper into despair.
Minorities are ACTIVELY working towards unseating YOU through proliferation.
If you were that organized we would not have the problems we are facing.
Again the problem is not with all minorities or people of color..these problems run rampant in the African american community.
And you prove YOUR racism...all you hope to do is expound racist punishment over white people not gain equality..you are hateful...but dont get too upset i wouldnt want hypertension to take you any sooner than it will.
"And you prove YOUR racism...all you hope to do is expound racist punishment over white people not gain equality..you are hateful...but dont get too upset i wouldnt want hypertension to take you any sooner than it will. "
Sir, it's laughable.
The Grand Wizard here calling ANYONE racist. LOL.
You can't upset me...ignorance draws my pity, not my ire.
The Grand Wizard here calling ANYONE racist. LOL.
once again you prove my point..when anyone disagrees with your take they are racist..that is your trump card and you try to pull it out for every defense...you set double standards.
like with the jesse jackson book...you call the authors claims unsubstantiated...well then why would a rich powerful man like jesse not sue and have the book pulled. It is the same logic you used for coca cola not suing Jackson?
"you call the authors claims unsubstantiated...well then why would a rich powerful man like jesse not sue and have the book pulled. It is the same logic you used for coca cola not suing Jackson? "
Sir, the authors site no sources. It is all conjecture.
Jesse Jackson is a Negro in America. He may have some money. But rich and powerful?
The fact that Jesse didn't sue only proves his lack of concern over money.
Jesse came out and said the book is an unfair representation of his life.
When a man of Jesse's dignity, track record and honor makes such a statement.
The world believes him.
The fact that Jesse didn't sue only proves his lack of concern over money.
Jesse came out and said the book is an unfair representation of his life.
When a man of Jesse's dignity, track record and honor makes such a statement.
The world believes him.
You sir are a great comedy writer!!
"You sir are a great comedy writer!!"
Sir, you can continue to live in your lilly white bubble as the world passes you by.
That's us waving as we pass.
Sir, you can continue to live in your lilly white bubble as the world passes you by.
That's us waving as we pass.
oh wait i see you...in that thousand dollar 1987 nissan maxima with 2000 dollar rims....
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