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Wednesday, November 7, 2007

Notre Dame: Do the Right Thang

Notre Dame is in the midst of the most tragic season ever encountered by the university. 1-8. Losing to Navy for the first time in 40 odd years. One loss away from the most in a season in school history. An underachieving and glaringly ineffective motivator as a coach.

To mimic the brilliantly succint and poignant Dan Shanoff: Worst. Season. Ever.

The boo birds are out in full force at ND Stadium. Subway alums are questioning Weis' future at the Cathedral of College Football. And, blogs are routinely roasting and lambasting Weis and his Dom DeLuise like physique.

Piling on would be easy. Pointing out each and every Weis shortcoming would be no challenge.

Bringing up Ty Willingham's record after an equal number of games and juxtaposing the scope and magnitude of the various victories and losses of the coaches is unnecessary.

Willingham did more. He won more. He suffered less humiliating losses. He beat better teams. The records can not be changed. They can not be sugar coated or washed away.

Bringing up that Willingham was fired after just three years would be obvious.

Bringing up the hypocrisy involved in the situations of each coach would only open up a discussion on the implication of race on the university's decision to purge itself of the Negro coach and keep the soft, flaccid coach presently orchestrating the debacle being conducted under the out stretched arms of Touchdown Jesus.

Even the most feverish ND fan is aware that ND has clearly treated these coaches very differently.

However, two wrongs don't make a right.

We support ND giving Weis 5 full years (as has been the tradition, generally, at ND) to establish his program. Despite the university's abandoment of its very own philosophy in regards to Willingham's tenure: support for Weis should be universal.

Firstly, Weis' first two BCS bowl seasons were built on the backs of Willingham's recruits. Only now is Weis' program reaping the rewards of the touch of his sausage like digits.

To allow Weis the chance to leave the university after essentially one season of work, and to pay him some sort of buyout on his 10 year extension, would be an insult to every ND fan and booster out there.

This season's ND is the program Weis has built. The key players on his first two teams were developed and recruited by Willingham, so let's credit Coach Ty with those victories. And grant him those two years. Essentially, Ty Willingham provided ND with 39 victories over a 5 year span. Not great. But just about 8 victories a year.

Over a one year span, Weis has provided 1 victory. No 'elite' programs fire a coach after just one season.

To allow Weis to leave is unacceptable. He must be brought back for at least 3 more seasons. He should not be allowed to ride off into the sunset with one win and a nice severance package. Three more years of Saturday beatings on NBC must be enforced.

We agree that Ty Willingham was let go prematurely. That Ty Willingham was not given the expected ND standard of opportunity.

Despite the underachievement, horrendous motivational skills, poor game day preparation and huge gunt displayed by Weis; he must remain coach of ND. He must be given the expected ND standard of opportunity that was denied Brother Ty.

It would be unfair to apply the unfair standard exercised in the pink slipping of Coach Ty to Weis. Supporting the firing of coach Weis is tantamount to supporting the racial discrimination that was clearly the culprit in the removal of Willingham as coach.



We urge all ND fans:

Support Coach Weis. Don't support racial discrimination in the hiring/firing of football coaches.


We urge ND:

Keep Coach Weis. Don't support racial discrimination in the hiring/firing of football coaches.



And we urge the rest of you:

Enjoy watching the fat man destroy the history, traditions and future of ND football!



Catch it on NBC!

24 comments:

skateboard hustler said...

Well said...I could not agree with you more.

Dave the Wave said...

"Well said...I could not agree with you more."

another genius....

madd hatter said...

Weis is a genius. Going for it on forth and long with that crappy offense instead of attempting a field goal against Navy was just pure genius!

righteous gentile said...

Charlie Weis is a true American patriot. He understands the dangers the young men from the service academies will be facing upon graduation and is doing his best to give them some joy before they must go in harms way. look for him to repeat the performance this weekend against the air force academy, just to give everyone a little boost right before veterans day.

What a man.

Sebastian said...

You guys are evil...hee hee...pure,undadulterated, delightful, "hey boosters in your face and suck on this" evil...

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"You guys are evil"

Sir, we believe you meant righteous. Correct?

That was just a typo? Yes?

Sebastian said...

Sorry,

Not just "righteous," but "damn righteous..."

Harry Edwards said...

Point of clarification: ND is still largely using Ty's recruits - Weis' are sophomores/redshirt freshment/freshmen/redshirts.

So, via your logic, this season should be on Ty's record, too.

Otherwise, once again, I love your articles!

Harry Edwards said...

^ Actually, I guess you could make an argument that Weis hasnt even started coaching yet!! lol

lost said...

h.e.- i don't think anybody could dispute that argument.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"So, via your logic, this season should be on Ty's record, too."

Sir, you make a fair point.

However, a perusal (is that how it's spelled?) of the ND 2 deep shows an influx of first and second year players.

Weis' players.

So, we must concede that the application of our logic to this season does not fit.

Therefore, we grant Weis full and unencumbered credit for the current season's less than outstanding showings.

Try as we might, we just can't logically attribute this season to Ty.

Our own logic fails.

:)

Malcom Hex said...

"h.e.- i don't think anybody could dispute that argument."


like maddhatter said on this thread...passing up that field goal pretty much proves it...

skateboard hustler said...

"another genius...."

aww that hurt... :|

RockyJasons said...

"He suffered less humiliating losses."

Thanks for pointing this out. "Coach Ty" excels at leading his teams to truly un-humiliating losses.

Reviewing his record at ND, almost all his losses were exceedingly non-humiliating.

Or only mildly humiliating at worst.

And, unselfishly, he has carried to Seattle this ability to lead his team to losses that are not humiliating.

And he is showing it off this year.

Pin a medal on the man's chest.

Thanks for pointing out the un-humiliating truth.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"Thanks for pointing out the un-humiliating truth."

Sir, your attempts at sarcasm are misplaced.

If you had any knowledge of some of the complaints levied against Ty that led to his ouster, you would be aware that one was that he suffered too many losses by large margins.

We simply pointed out that Weis has suffered MORE.

Thanks for demonstrating your lack of knowledge on the situation by mistakenly attempting to poke fun at our point.

A point you didn't get.

So, if you don't mind...we'll turn the tables and be the ones that call you stupid.

Fair enough?

Outstanding.

Al_Sharpton's_Banana_Hammock said...

So, if you don't mind...we'll turn the tables and be the ones that call you stupid.
___________________________________

here here. rocky is another one that comes here set on trying to 'prove' you wrong, and ends up always looking like a jackass because he misses what you are saying.

stupid is a fair adjective to describe him

RockyJasons said...

"We simply pointed out that Weis has suffered MORE."

Indeed...a stunning indictment.


Al_Sharpton's_Banana_Hammock said...

"here here."

My poor man, in this case stupid is self evident.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

""We simply pointed out that Weis has suffered MORE."

Indeed...a stunning indictment."

Sir, clearly it was stunning to YOU. As you completely missed the point in your initial defecation on this thread.

Don't take it so personally. You didn't understand the point originally. Made comment based on your miscomprehension. And you looked stupid.

To pretend now that you have a clue is the poorest of acts.

You've already revealed your dearth of insight. Can't pretend it away with another attempted insult.

Malcom Hex said...

"My poor man, in this case stupid is self evident."

true enough. you've made it clear with each post you've made on this thread.

uncommon sense said...

guys, come on. Rocky is a little slow. He's taken a few too many shots to the noggin.

Brian said...

So point of order then...

How can you give Ty wins from Charlie's first two years (with players that Ty refused to win with while said players were in their first two years..sounds like some of the same problems that Charlie's having this year) but not give Bob Davie wins from Ty's first year at least.

Seems like you may be guilty of the same double standard you decry Notre Dame for.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"Seems like you may be guilty of the same double standard you decry Notre Dame for."

Sir, actually, we can't be.

We don't hold the futures of the coaches in the palm of hands. We don't have power. Therefore, we CAN'T exercise the institutional racism that ND has.

Additionally, when things slumped off for Ty, no one was running around screaming about the players being Bob Davies players. As soon as Charlie started losing, the blame was passed to Ty's recruiting.

Therefore, since no one was trying to push off Ty's losses on Bob...why give his wins to Bob?

In Charlie's case...if ND'ers wanna blame the losses on Ty, well, then let's give him the wins as well.

Seems like ND'ers who support Charlie are REALLY the ones with a double standard.

sgtsteveirish said...

ty was a horrible recruiter and a lazy coach! It seems like you want to paint Coach Weis in a bad light. If you don't like the way ND handled willingham fine but you are wrong for singling out Coach Weis. There is good within this man, why didn't you point out the tireless charity work he does to fight autism or what he did for the little boy who died of cancer after ND beat the team that willingham currently coaches. Speaking of that how has ty done at the u of washington? Guess that's Coach Weis' fault as well, huh? Your bias is born out of religious hate for Catholics and reverse racism but you'll never admit that. Race relations will never improve because both sides won't try to end racism. Now I'll wait for you to insult me, that's one thing you guys are good at. Oh and by the way remember since Veteran's Day was just yesterday freedom isn't free. I served this country for over 13 years and am proud of it!!!!!

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"If you don't like the way ND handled willingham fine but you are wrong for singling out Coach Weis. There is good within this man"

Sir, your comment personifies the bias and bigotry inherent under the scope of the Golden Dome.

You ask that we all forget about the fact that Weis has assembled the worst ND team in history, and focus on his 'good' character.

We ask you: When Ty started losing too many games for the satisfaction of the Irish fans...why didn't the focus shift to what a good man HE is? No, instead, the focus was on his W-L record, which is better than Weis'.

Your comment reaks of racial bias.


"Speaking of that how has ty done at the u of washington? Guess that's Coach Weis' fault as well, huh?"

Your hatred of Negroes has clouded your perception of reality.

You are confused. Why would anyone blame Weis for anything at UDubb?????

No, see, the way it goes is....Weis has a horrible season at ND...loses to service academies...and everyone blames Ty's 'poor' recruiting. You know, the recruiting which provided the bulk of the roster that went to BCS bowls the last two seasons.

"Your bias is born out of religious hate for Catholics and reverse racism but you'll never admit that."

Actually, any bias we have towards ND is based on the hypocritical way they have dealt with Weis after firing Ty. We could care less what false prophets you worship.

"Race relations will never improve because both sides won't try to end racism. "

Correction. ONE side won't end racism. The other side doesn't hold power in this society and therefore can't implement the institutional infrastructure to even so much as undertake being racist. Racism in America is a one way street. Look in the mirror if you want to see a racist.

"Oh and by the way remember since Veteran's Day was just yesterday freedom isn't free. I served this country for over 13 years and am proud of it!!!!!"

What Veterans Day has to do with the substance of this post is lost on us.

Clearly, as is the wont of the generalist racists whom you represent, you attempt to shift the focus to a comment that you believe makes you some sort of patriot or something.

And we agree, freedom isn't free.

WE ARE STILL FIGHTING FOR OURS!

(no thanks to you or your 13 wasted years enforcing the imperialist agenda of a racist society)