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Tuesday, November 13, 2007

Marbury: Enough's Enough

Stephon Marbury has had a lucrative career, but a lackluster career. Marbury can appropriately be labelled 'over rated'.

Of course, Marbury would see things differently. Fancying himself a franchise player, his career has been marked with somewhat selfish decisions borne of the frustration of his own perception of his abilities versus reality.

Marbury has had squabbles in the past over minutes and role, and has had rifts with coaches and management.

Interestingly enough, his own misperception of his performance mimics the media's misperception of his latest contemptuous retreat from his assigned duty.

Marbury, founder of an admirably affordable and culture changing shoe line, most certainly will be portrayed as having run out on his team in anger over the possibility of losing playing time.

Unfortunately, just as Marbury's past decisions were based on his misperceptions about his performance and value on the court, the media has completely misperceived his latest actions and completely disregarded the strides his maturity has measured over the past year.

Marbury was intimately involved in the harassment case against his coach, Isiah Thomas. He saw firsthand how Thomas' actions adversely and nearly irreparably harmed the life of a mother. He witnessed, as his own behavior and less than respectful treatment of a female, was brought to testimony in court.

He grew.

And now, when his maturity, sensitivity and social conscience have reached soaring heights. When he is willing to risk it all to stand by his newfound convictions. Now, the media wants to portray him as a rabble rousing, selfish prima dona.

It's clear for anyone to see that this most recent incident is not about basketball. It can't be.

Just as Marbury chose to give up millions of dollars in endorsement opportunities to provide youths with stylish and culturally relevent kicks at a low cost; now he risks forfeiting the remainder of his $42M contract to make a point.

Marbury has had enough.

And we don't blame him for not being willing to play for an organization that has fostered and nurtured an atmosphere that allows the unfair and disprespectful treatment of women.

Marbury's action is the ultimate show of solidarity with females:

We can't even count the number of times the significant females in our lives have not gotten their way and stormed out of the room.

54 comments:

Nakatomi said...

....Or he could've came off the bench and played his ass off.

But i guess he's taking a principled stand.


*casket*

Dave the Wave said...

his annual hissy fits are a testament to his immaturity and typical athlete selfishness

Dave the Wave said...

"Nakatomi said... "


konichiwa, nakatomi-san

Chris said...

You can't be serious. Starbury is a cancer and a joke and he always will be. I really hope this post was complete sarcasm. Otherwise, you really have no clue.

lgf said...

"Starbury is a cancer and a joke"

So you find cancer funny, douche-fag?

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"Otherwise, you really have no clue."

Sir, do you KNOW Starbury?

Or is your opinion on this simply based on your willingness to let the mainstream media guide you?

Was he a cancer on YOUR team when YOU played with him?

Umm hmmm.

Another blind sheep. Hating the philanthropic Negro because the media tells you to.

You are the only cancer in this discussion.

We hope your ignorance sets toward remission.

ZEKE said...

"konichiwa, nakatomi-san"

dang dave, didn't know you spoke that slanty-eyed gobbly gook. i beth them geisha girls just eat it up.

and i bet they like that you know that singsongy language of theirs,too

Chris said...

Sir, do YOU know Starbury? No, you don't either, so that means both of our opinions are just that - opinions. Get off your high horse.

and yes, you got it lgf, i think cancer is a joke. That's exactly what I was trying to say. You are a very smart person.

lgf said...

"and yes, you got it lgf, i think cancer is a joke. That's exactly what I was trying to say. You are a very smart person."

You didn't even have the brain power to infer the meaning of NOIS' post from the first two commenters, dipshit.

And NOIS has no clue? Ok.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"Sir, do YOU know Starbury? No, you don't either, so that means both of our opinions are just that - opinions. Get off your high horse."

Sir, no we don't.

And that is precisely why we don't take the ridiculous and ignorant route of labelling him as a 'team cancer'.

Like you did.

We aren't on a high horse.

But we certainly are a plane above your silly self when it comes to basic reasoning ability.

To suggest that the fact that neither you nor we know Starbury somehow allows for YOU to definatively make character statements about him is just silly.

We'd accuse you of being on a high horse, too...but clearly, you don't even know which end to face when riding.

Avonte Mixon said...

people:

Marbury's action is the ultimate show of solidarity with females:

We can't even count the number of times the significant females in our lives have not gotten their way and stormed out of the room.

ZEKE said...

"Marbury's action is the ultimate show of solidarity with females:

We can't even count the number of times the significant females in our lives have not gotten their way and stormed out of the room."

for once i agree with NOIS!!!

Marbury IS a bitch!

Chris said...

Sir, you are right.

I am silly.

I am also, as lgf has correctly indicated, a "dipshit."

Hopefully, with some help, I will no longer let the mainstream media guide me into hating the philanthropic negro.

Additionally, I know better now than to attempt to criticize a post on your blog.

You sir, are a beacon to me. Something for me to strive for, hoping and wishing that someday, somehow, I can achieve your level of greatness.

And though I will fall short, hopefully you will be there, with all of your wisdom, to pick me up, and show me the right way.

p.s.
Marbury still sucks.

Nathan said...

"Isiah has to start me," Marbury fumed, according to the source. "I've got so much (stuff) on Isiah and he knows it. He thinks he can (get) me. But I'll (get) him first. You have no idea what I know."

--Stephon Marbury

Threats of blackmail really are the first sign of maturity.

lgf said...

"Stephon Marbury has had a lucrative career, but a lackluster career. Marbury can appropriately be labelled 'over rated'."

No, for you, "dipshit" is clearly not appropriate. Fuckin Retard would seem to be sufficient, that is, until your next post.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"Threats of blackmail really are the first sign of maturity."

Sir, blackmail...really?

Clearing his conscience and no longer covering for the misdeeds of a man that holds power over him is blackmail?

What could be more mature than coming to terms with how wrong it is for him not to expose any tawdry information?

We applaud Marbury and his guilty conscience.

And, we find it characteristic of your unabashed racial bias to label Marbury's personal growth and desire to go against the label of 'snitching' as being 'blackmail'.

Absurd.

Malcom Hex said...

"No, for you, "dipshit" is clearly not appropriate. Fuckin Retard would seem to be sufficient, that is, until your next post."

? huh ?

Sportsbruh said...

I'm sorry Bro. T.

YOU MUST BE CRAZY. Sometimes, I question your thinking.

Marbury is the DEbIL!!!!

Al_Sharpton's_Banana_Hammock said...

"YOU MUST BE CRAZY. Sometimes, I question your thinking.

Marbury is the DEbIL!!!!"

i think that if you re-read the last two sentences, you will come to the conclusion (like even zeke did) that NOIS is calling Marbury a bitch.

Foxxy Brown said...

"What could be more mature than coming to terms with how wrong it is for him not to expose any tawdry information?"

Indeed, Brother Marbury has matured. he has debuted as a loyal,involved Knicks employee willing to place his occupational future on the line in an effort to urge the Knickerbocker shareholders to investigate his supervisor's exercise of due diligence. Bro. Marbury must be commended for puting the organization's interests before his own.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"Bro. Marbury must be commended for puting the organization's interests before his own."

Ma'am, at times we rejoice in how far you have come!

censored said...

Just as Marbury chose to give up millions of dollars in endorsement opportunities to provide youths with stylish and culturally relevent kicks at a low cost; now he risks forfeiting the remainder of his $42M contract to make a point.

At least try to deal in some facts...Marbury is actually making MORE money with the starbury brand than if he signed an endorsement deal. Even though the shoes sell for a low price, when you factor in marketing and materials the profit margin on a pair of starbury sneakers is equal to a 110 dollar pair of NIKEs...so although marburys plan is admirable dont portray him as taking a financial hit...he is actually making MORE with this brand.

censored said...

when are people going to learn that isiah thomas does not have the skill set necessary to run an NBA franchise...he is a dark cloud that hangs over everything he touches.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

".Marbury is actually making MORE money with the starbury brand than if he signed an endorsement deal. Even though the shoes sell for a low price, when you factor in marketing and materials the profit margin on a pair of starbury sneakers is equal to a 110 dollar pair of NIKEs"

Sir, please provide the factual basis for your assumptions.

We'd like to see material purchase costs, labor costs, logistics costs...etc.

If you can't provide these, please post and admit that this is purely your speculation and is no way proveable with FACTS.

Thanks in advance.

Al_Sharpton's_Banana_Hammock said...

"the profit margin on a pair of starbury sneakers is equal to a 110 dollar pair of NIKEs"

you are out of your MIND!

marbury's shoes sell for about $15 bucks....you are telling me that a pair of NIKE's that sell for $110 and are made of the same shitty material and with the same slave labor as Starbury's have less than a $15 profit margin...even when you factor in marketing???

HAHAHAHAH.

You aren't EVER right, you know that, don't YOU?

ultrasound tech said...

""the profit margin on a pair of starbury sneakers is equal to a 110 dollar pair of NIKEs"

you are out of your MIND!"

agreed. NIKE isn't making 100's of millions of dollars a year by turning a $2 profit margin on kicks...LOL

censored said...

Sir, please provide the factual basis for your assumptions.

We'd like to see material purchase costs, labor costs, logistics costs...etc.

If you can't provide these, please post and admit that this is purely your speculation and is no way proveable with FACTS.

All i can point to is the in depth story done on the starbury brand by the show Real Sports on HBO. There was a full interview with Marbury himself. All the facts i stated were reported in the piece. It was a positive piece about Marburys brand. He personally receives about 2 dollars per pair of shoes sold. Now go on a rant about how i am racist but it is you who should look up facts before spouting your ignorance.

censored said...

""the profit margin on a pair of starbury sneakers is equal to a 110 dollar pair of NIKEs"

you are out of your MIND!"

agreed. NIKE isn't making 100's of millions of dollars a year by turning a $2 profit margin on kicks...LOL

i know it is alot for you pea brains to wrap your head around but it is true....so dont paint it as if marbury hasnt gotten a huge economic gain from this brand. When factoring in the hundreds of millions of dollars NIKE spends on marketing the profit margin is about the same...about 9 dollars per pair for both a NIKE and a starbury.

Foxxy Brown said...

"Ma'am, at times we rejoice in how far you have come!"

Sir, i am humbled by the recognition. I breathe in the fresh air of truth and know my worth.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

" He personally receives about 2 dollars per pair of shoes sold."

"All i can point to is the in depth story done on the starbury brand by the show Real Sports on HBO."

Sir, you reference something and bring up NO specifics.

Anyway, we'll end this argument quickly and painlessly.

You stated as fact that "Even though the shoes sell for a low price, when you factor in marketing and materials the profit margin on a pair of starbury sneakers is equal to a 110 dollar pair of NIKEs."

Sir, BusinessWeek has reported that the profit margin on Air Force I's alone is 70%.

Now, you never did clarify whether you meant that the % profit margin was equal or if the actual $'s made in profit margin were equal....

Either way...YOU are wrong again.

Stop allowing your inaccurate interpretation of things you see on tv to masquerade as 'fact'.

It continues to make you look silly.

ultrasound tech said...

"When factoring in the hundreds of millions of dollars NIKE spends on marketing the profit margin is about the same...about 9 dollars per pair for both a NIKE and a starbury."


So, you are saying that Marbury is making over a 60% profit margin on these shoes?

That advertising and manufacting of his shoes is a cost of $6 per pair????

You are aware that the entire reason he is able to sell them so cheaply is because he has consciously accepted that he will have a LOW profit margin, right??? That he is hoping to make money in volume, not margin...right???

Do even bother to look shit up before you start saying things?

Everything you have said is strictly your opinion on the shoe business. Do a google search and all you have stated is contradicted by magazine articles, by NIKE, by Marbury and by SEC filings.

You really are a fountain of complete misinformation.

Also known as a liar.

Malcom Hex said...

""You are aware that the entire reason he is able to sell them so cheaply is because he has consciously accepted that he will have a LOW profit margin, right??? "

true. the whole point of it (other than making some cash) was to show that the Nike's of the world are killing consumers with their profit margin.

and i'd like to know specifically where censored came up with the numbers he gave. $2 in Marburys pocket, and $9 profit margin for both Starbury and Nike on shoes.

I did a bunch of searches and found NOTHING that gave any numbers like that.

I even found the transcript from the show he talked about and it didn't say that in there either.

Basically, censored just made that stuff up.

like you said, 'liar'.

Lil John's Pimp Cup said...

> ""the profit margin on a pair of starbury sneakers is equal to a 110 dollar pair of NIKEs"

Somebody (CENSORED) don't know what the term "profit margin" means.

I make $5 profit on $15 kicks = 33% profit margin

I make $36.67 proft on $100 kicks = 33% profit margin

SAME PROFIT MARGIN, BUT LESS MONEY

MARGIN is not a dollar amount, it is a PERCENTAGE.

Dumbass.

censored said...

Sir, BusinessWeek has reported that the profit margin on Air Force I's alone is 70%.

Now, you never did clarify whether you meant that the % profit margin was equal or if the actual $'s made in profit margin were equal....

Either way...YOU are wrong again.

listen this is another case of a cold slap of reality and you dont like anyone pointing out that you are wrong. Get a copy of the show and it will shut you up...otherwise just keep fooling yourself. When businessweek reports the profit margin for one type of shoe they do not take into account the hundreds of millions of dollars the company has tied up in a small handful of athletes endorsement deals. Your assertion that marbury lost money by starting his line and not signing on to a lower level endorsement deal is just incorrect.
In fact, Marbury has said when his contract expires in 2 years he wants to play in europe to further market his shoe and clothing line.
Although his premise is nobel, Marbury is making millions off the brand...money that he never made in endorsements.

censored said...

So, you are saying that Marbury is making over a 60% profit margin on these shoes?

That advertising and manufacting of his shoes is a cost of $6 per pair????

You are aware that the entire reason he is able to sell them so cheaply is because he has consciously accepted that he will have a LOW profit margin, right??? That he is hoping to make money in volume, not margin...right???

soundtech..other than being on NOIS jock i dont understand your logic.
What i said is what was reported on HBO that marbury himself pockets about 2 dollars per pair sold. They also reported that there have been millions of pairs sold...so you do the math and tell me if marbury took any financial hit to start his business. Of course his business model is to sell more volume at a lower price, who the hell argued that?, you agree with me...that after all the B.S. the real motivation for this business is to make marbury alot of money and that is the bottom line.

censored said...

""You are aware that the entire reason he is able to sell them so cheaply is because he has consciously accepted that he will have a LOW profit margin, right??? "

true. the whole point of it (other than making some cash) was to show that the Nike's of the world are killing consumers with their profit margin.

so now you speak for marbury? in his words the whole point of it was to create a cheap shoe so young black kids dont kill each other to steal each others nikes...his motivation had nothing to do with Nikes profit margins but more to do with trying to combat the lack of moral behavior in the inner cities.

censored said...

So, you are saying that Marbury is making over a 60% profit margin on these shoes?

That advertising and manufacting of his shoes is a cost of $6 per pair????

You are aware that the entire reason he is able to sell them so cheaply is because he has consciously accepted that he will have a LOW profit margin, right??? That he is hoping to make money in volume, not margin...right???

His profit margin is over 60 percent but yet you say he accepts that he will have a low profit margin....well thought out argument...the short bus is waiting outside for you.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"listen this is another case of a cold slap of reality and you dont like anyone pointing out that you are wrong. Get a copy of the show and it will shut you up..."

Sir, so...we present actual information from BusinessWeek...you tell us to attain a copy of some show that you 'supposedly' heard someone say something on...and we are the ones with a reality problem?

Also, one of the readers here stated he found an online transcript of the show...and it didn't say what you claim.

Reality?

You wouldn't know it if it stuck its cock in your ass.

But you'd enjoy it.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"When businessweek reports the profit margin for one type of shoe they do not take into account the hundreds of millions of dollars the company has tied up in a small handful of athletes endorsement deals"

Sir, THAT IS EXACTLY what profit margin is!!!

BusinessWeek, being a BUSINESS magazine, written by well educated BUSINESS journalists (UNLIKE YOU) takes that very thing into account.

They arrive at PROFIT margin by SUBTRACTING and ACCOUNTING for all COSTS involved.

Holy SHIT!

READ THE ARTICLE!

You are seriously going to tell everyone that 'no, business week doesn't account for this and that in profit margin'..WHEN THEY SAY RIGHT IN THE ARTICLE THAT THEY DO???

LOL.

Wow.

There is a total disconnect here.

NOIS and the readers actually go to the internet, find information and present it.

You simply give us YOUR opinion as if it were fact. When, it isn't even based on any facts. It's simply based on what you WANT things to be.

No wonder you are so angry.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"What i said is what was reported on HBO that marbury himself pockets about 2 dollars per pair sold. "


Sir, NO. That isn't ALL you said.

What YOU said is that both Nike and Starbury turn a $9 profit on their shoes.

Sorry, you can't dance out of it.

You are WRONG.

ultrasound tech said...

"so now you speak for marbury? in his words the whole point of it was to create a cheap shoe so young black kids dont kill each other to steal each others nikes...his motivation had nothing to do with Nikes profit margins but more to do with trying to combat the lack of moral behavior in the inner cities."


WRONG. In the transcripts of the same interview YOU mentioned, it says that Marbury challenged Jordan to come up with a Star Jordan shoe that didn't rely on the big profit margins and market it to kids.

Marbury said that if he could make money without having to go for such high profit margins, so could Jordan and Nike.

WRONG again, censored!

ultrasound tech said...

"His profit margin is over 60 percent but yet you say he accepts that he will have a low profit margin....well thought out argument...the short bus is waiting outside for you."


YOU said initially said he makes $2....that is a 14% profit margin.

Later, you said that shoe has $9 profit for shoe.

THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT BACKS THIS UP!

NONE.

Steve and Barry's, the company that puts the shoe out operates on a philosophy of LOW margins and HIGH volume...so, the notion that this ONE product they put out goes against the ENTIRE philosophy of the company is absurd.

The bottom line:

Marbury is helping to change the 'gotta have expensive kicks' culture of youths...AND making money using a COMPLETELY different business model than Nike.

A model in which profit margins are not the driver.

Volume is.

READ ABOUT IT, jackass....instead of just giving your completely uninformed and MADE UP opinions.

uncommon sense said...

Let's go thru the checklist:

censored is ignorant about:

- baseball
- football
- basketball
- history
- racial issues
- social issues
- economics
- business
- english


hmmm...

he is the TOTAL PACKAGE!

It's amazing one man could have absolutely ZERO knowledge about so many subjects, and yet still feel comfortable giving opinions, when he clearly doesn't read anything about the subjects. sad.

Avonte Mixon said...

"WRONG. In the transcripts of the same interview YOU mentioned, it says that Marbury challenged Jordan to come up with a Star Jordan shoe that didn't rely on the big profit margins and market it to kids."


i read the transcripts too. and you are right. nowhere does it say the profits are nine bucks a shoe. nowhere. and Marbury does say that he challenges the other companies to come out and market shows that don't have such a high mark up (READ: PROFIT MARGIN).

caught in yet another misinformed attempt to spit shit, eh, censored?

censored said...

YOU said initially said he makes $2....that is a 14% profit margin.

Later, you said that shoe has $9 profit for shoe.

THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT BACKS THIS UP!

NONE.

get a copy of the show and watch it..watch the studio portion..then speak from an informed perspective. Nobody is questioning a business model here you idiot..what i question is the assertion that marbury walked away from millions in endorsement dollars to start this shoe company. Can you not agree that in reality he, personally, is making more money with his own shoe line than he would make in a nike endorsement deal. He personally makes 2 bucks per pair of shoes sold....he would never get that kind of money in an endorsment deal. So while on the surface he seems totally noble...the facts are that he is making a ton of money off of this. Players who are the caliber of lebron james get the big endorsement deals and that cost, i believe james' deal alone is worth 90 million, gets passed onto those who buy NIKE shoes. To his credit marbury is creative in using this "robin hood" type approach to still line his own pockets.

censored said...

i read the transcripts too. and you are right. nowhere does it say the profits are nine bucks a shoe. nowhere. and Marbury does say that he challenges the other companies to come out and market shows that don't have such a high mark up

He also challenged other players to shun the big endorsement deals and develop cheap sneakers...only ben wallace has...why do you think a lebron james hasnt?? because unlike marbury the money james makes in endorsements is real (90 mil) and why should some kids killing each other over expensive sneakers stop him from cashing in?

censored said...

Also, one of the readers here stated he found an online transcript of the show...and it didn't say what you claim.

Reality?

You wouldn't know it if it stuck its cock in your ass.

one of your readers who didnt actually see the show....this is what you resort to when you are exposed..making lewd comments...as the song goes...i see your true COLORS shinin through...brotha.

censored said...

and by the way, marbury is just upset that 2 of his cousins that he had the knicks hire were let go for sexually harrassing women at the garden and isiah hasnt been...look it up biatch.

ultrasound tech said...

"
get a copy of the show and watch it..watch the studio portion..then speak from an informed perspective."

I FOUND A COPY OF THE TRANSCRIPT ON THE NET.

IT SAYS NOTHING ABOUT MAKING $9 a shoe!!!

Provid a link that shows this,or admit you are a liar.


YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT!

ultrasound tech said...

"one of your readers who didnt actually see the show...."

Do you know what a transcript is????

It is when everything said on the show is written down!

THE TRANSCRIPT OF THE SHOW DOES NOT SAY WHAT YOU CLAIM.

That means, that the show, whether I saw it or not...DOES NOT SAY WHAT YOU CLAIM.

It means YOU are a LIAR.

nation_of_islam_sportsblog said...

"one of your readers who didnt actually see the show....this is what you resort to when you are exposed..making lewd comments...as the song goes...i see your true COLORS shinin through...brotha."

Sir, and I see how you try to weasel out of a LIE.

The reader didn't see the show. But he read the transcripts.

What is the difference?

Clearly, you heard something on the show that no one else did.

Your true COLORS have always shown thru. Racist teller of lies.

Caught yet AGAIN!

Avonte Mixon said...

LOL.

Censored, how you gonna try and dispute what the transcripts of the show say????

Man, you been caught AGAIN spitting shit.

Cop to and move on.

You already have no credibility, so what does it even matter?

Amicable MindSet said...

"making lewd comments'

YOU are gonna call someone out about making lewd comments???

Haha...like the guy above said,'no credibility'.

The Black Hornet said...

hah - interesting take. I love Stephon for his shoe thing, but I never like shoot-first point guards. They always fail in the playoffs.