Samari Rolle is a respected player and man in the NFL. Unfortunately during the course of MNF's Ravens-Patriots game, Rolle was subjected to not just the indignity of botched calls and phantom time outs which led to the salvaging of the Patriots tarnished quest to finish out an undefeated season (in good conscience, we can't call it 'perfect'...that would mean turning our backs on the Patriots early season cheating), Rolle was also verbally harassed by a referee.
"The refs called me a boy. No. 110 called me a boy," Rolle said in the locker room after the game. "I will be calling my agent in the morning and sending my complaint. I have a wife and three kids. Don't call me a boy. Don't call me a boy on the field during a game because I said, 'You've never played football before.' "
Of course, the usage of the term 'boy' in referring to an adult Negro male by a white* male is meant to be as disrespectful and degrading as using the N-word. It is designed to figuratively castrate the adult Negro male and reinforce the notion of being powerless. Of being an impotent slave.
We certainly hope the NFL will look closely into this circumstance and come down with swift and meaningful action.
The next player a referee refers to as 'boy' might not remain as level headed about the situation as Rolle has.
*No. 110 head linesman Phil McKinnely, a former player for three NFL teams during the 1970s and '80s, who played collegiately at UCLA, is black.
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well done...i think you are starting to come around.
black on black crime (even verbal crimes) should not go unpunished. The only answer would seemingly be to not allow negro's to hold head linesman positions.
"well done...i think you are starting to come around."
Sir, we've been 'around.'
Where have you been?
Of course, the usage of the term 'boy' in referring to an adult Negro male by a white* male is meant to be as disrespectful and degrading as using the N-word. It is designed to figuratively castrate the adult Negro male and reinforce the notion of being powerless. Of being an impotent slave.
Is the term any less degrading when used by a black male against a black male?
"Is the term any less degrading when used by a black male against a black male?"
Sir, what is your point?????
"Is the term any less degrading when used by a black male against a black male?"
well, it loses the undertones of racial superiority, doesnt it?
"Is the term any less degrading when used by a black male against a black male?"
Sir, what is your point?????
No point. A question...and the answer is...?
wtf, douchenozzle!...why even bring up what it means when a white man does it if a white man didn't do it?....and why the tiny print saying that the shitknocker ref was a jig????
"Is the term any less degrading when used by a black male against a black male?"
well, it loses the undertones of racial superiority, doesnt it?
If so, why was Rolle so upset?
"No point. A question...and the answer is...?"
Sir, the answer is irrelevent.
We aren't addressing when a Negro does it to another Negro. We are talking about an NFL referee consciously using a term that could be taken as racially offensive in the course of his work.
These refs need education.
"If so, why was Rolle so upset?"
probably because he felt the refs screwed his team and he was mad...
well, the ref should be upset....rolle started it by telling the ref that he never played the game....and the ref played in college and the NFL...rolle is the ignorant one in this case.
or, actually, all cases.
"Is the term any less degrading when used by a black male against a black male?"
well, it loses the undertones of racial superiority, doesnt it?
If so, why was Rolle so upset?
Rolle is not totally wrong here. This is evidence of how african americans are conditioned to think today. When faced with a failure (in this case losing the game), interjecting a racial element, even when one doesnt exist, deflects from the failure itself. It is all part of the blame culture which is nurtured by idiots like NOIS.
"When faced with a failure (in this case losing the game), interjecting a racial element, even when one doesnt exist, deflects from the failure itself."
so, you are saying that ROLLE interjected a racial element????? LOL...where did Rolle say this? All he did is say it is disrespectful to call a grown man with a family a 'boy'...
YOU, censored, are the one interjecting a racial element. Rolle sure didn't.
"YOU, censored, are the one interjecting a racial element. Rolle sure didn't."
ummm, i'm pretty sure you've read censored's comments before, haven't you? turning everything into a racial debate is what he does. lucky, no one else around here sinks to his level or racistism.
" interjecting a racial element, even when one doesnt exist, deflects from the failure itself"
was that a little self analysis there, censored?
so, you are saying that ROLLE interjected a racial element????? LOL...where did Rolle say this? All he did is say it is disrespectful to call a grown man with a family a 'boy'...
oh please you jackass..stop selectively reading between the lines. Are you saying his complaint was based on "ageism"..you are a tool soundtech
"Are you saying his complaint was based on "ageism"..you are a tool soundtech"
so you really believe that Rolle was making a complaint based on racism against a black ref?
and I'm the tool?
"you are a tool soundtech"
HAHAHA...i love how ol' censored always hate on soundtech. it make him so mad that soundtech is a whiteboy, too, but ain't a racist like he is.
so you really believe that Rolle was making a complaint based on racism against a black ref?
as idiotic as Rolle is, that is what he has been conditioned to do.
Do you really believe Rolle is filing a complaint because he feels he is "too old" to be referred to as a boy? really? or is it because of the racial undertones of the word? It doesnt matter that the ref was black..the next excuse will be that regardless of his skin color he represents the white mans NFL...anything to keep the excuses alive.
that soundtech is a whiteboy, too, but ain't a racist like he is.
dont call me white"boy", i am too old for that...i am filing a complaint with NOIS.
"anything to keep the excuses alive."
Sir, it's clear to everyone.
YOU are the one keeping the excuse alive. Rolle went out of his way to explain why he felt disrespected.
Actually, YOU are the one conditioned to make this a racial discussion.
Rolle made his feeling clear. YOu are the one that has decided to make it racial.
Reread Rolles comment. Then read yours.
Who's the one conditioned to blame race?
It isn't Rolle....
once again, censored enters a battle of wits unarmed.
censored, stop reading this blog. it's an IQ test. And you keep failing.
Reread Rolles comment. Then read yours.
Who's the one conditioned to blame race?
It isn't Rolle....
sure...it was only an issue about age....keep it alive, it is getting you far.
"sure...it was only an issue about age..."
are you really this dumb?
it's about RESPECT and belittling him by the ref implying that Rolle is a boy and the ref is a man.
the only racial aspect is the one YOU won't let go of. ANd you wonder why some black folks get paranoid about race? cause some white folks like you try to put it in everything.
"Of course, the usage of the term 'boy' in referring to an adult Negro male by a white* male is meant to be as disrespectful and degrading as using the N-word. It is designed to figuratively castrate the adult Negro male and reinforce the notion of being powerless. Of being an impotent slave."
NOIS always puts his racial spin on all kinds of issues, but this has to be the most self-serving jump to conclusions I have ever seen!! Could you be any more transparent?
How convenient it is for NOIS's blog that he assumed the ref in question is white. Just makes today's entry so juicy, and the issue so much more controversial, doesn't it??
Oh, but I suppose the asterisk and the minuscule print at the bottom completely absolves NOIS of trying to force race into this. Of course.
"Of course, the usage of the term 'boy' in referring to an adult Negro male by a white* male is meant to be as disrespectful and degrading as using the N-word. It is designed to figuratively castrate the adult Negro male and reinforce the notion of being powerless. Of being an impotent slave."
If your post didnt infer a racial element what purpose does this paragraph have? Like everything about you, it is probably just irrelevent.
"you are a tool soundtech"
HAHAHA...i love how ol' censored always hate on soundtech. it make him so mad that soundtech is a whiteboy, too, but ain't a racist like he is.
tripod i am amazed by how easy it is to now use the internet. It is incredible that someone, like you, with your less than third grade education can navigate it. Keep it up, by next week you can learn how to dial a phone.
"How convenient it is for NOIS's blog that he assumed the ref in question is white."
umm, the fact that NOIS did identify that the ref wasn't white (regardless of the size of the print) invalidates your statement. How can NOIS "assume the ref in question is white", when he identifies him as being black?
How?
That is just a stupid statement.
"How convenient it is for NOIS's blog that he assumed the ref in question is white. Just makes today's entry so juicy, and the issue so much more controversial, doesn't it??
Oh, but I suppose the asterisk and the minuscule print at the bottom completely absolves NOIS of trying to force race into this. Of course."
Really, NOIS assumes the ref is white but tells us the ref is black?
Are you retarded?
" Like everything about you, it is probably just irrelevent."
Sir, our sitemeter shows that you have logged over 25 page views and spent over 90 mins on our site today.
Who's irrelevent?
"It is incredible that someone, like you, with your less than third grade education can navigate it. "
and it's amazing how someone like you can find time to pry himself off of white power sites to come to NOIS and look stupid everyday.
well done!
" Like everything about you, it is probably just irrelevent."
Sir, our sitemeter shows that you have logged over 25 page views and spent over 90 mins on our site today.
Who's irrelevent?
duck the real issue...you have no answer...lameass.
"Could you be any more transparent?"
Sir, actually no.
But somehow, you still can't see clearly.
"duck the real issue...you have no answer...lameass"
Sir, you haven't even identified the 'real' issue.
When you do, we'll address it.
Till then, keep calling us lame....and spending half your day here.
Sir, you haven't even identified the 'real' issue.
When you do, we'll address it.
Till then, keep calling us lame....and spending half your day here.
is 90 minutes half of YOUR day? haahaaa...probably is.
i have addressed the real issue of blacks in this country being conditioned to do whatever it takes to excuse failure..the most convenient way by bringing a racial element into everything.
"i have addressed the real issue of blacks in this country being conditioned to do whatever it takes to excuse failure..the most convenient way by bringing a racial element into everything"
Sir, no.
How could you have done that?
Rolle never brought up race.
You did.
And, you aren't Negro. So, how does YOU interjecting race as Rolle's excuse for losing the game prove that Negroes are conditioned to do so? YOU making it about race, when Rolle didn't make it about race is not proving anything.
If we say we are going to support Obama. You will say it's because he is of Negro decent, right?
You won't bother to hear the part where we explain that we would support him because Hillary is a woman and we believe woman should not be in a position to lead men.
You'd make it racial.
But it's sexist.
We see how you are!
"You'd make it racial.
But it's sexist."
HAHA, well done!
""How convenient it is for NOIS's blog that he assumed the ref in question is white."
umm, the fact that NOIS did identify that the ref wasn't white (regardless of the size of the print) invalidates your statement. How can NOIS "assume the ref in question is white", when he identifies him as being black?"
To Sharpton and Jeff Reed:
I acknowledged the asterisk and tiny print at the bottom. The only reason either of them were necessary was because NOIS initially wrote this entry as if the ref were white.
A pretense that was, of course, completely off base. In light of the actual race of the ref in question, tell me how much sense this makes:
"Of course, the usage of the term 'boy' in referring to an adult Negro male by a white* male is meant to be as disrespectful and degrading as using the N-word. It is designed to figuratively castrate the adult Negro male and reinforce the notion of being powerless. Of being an impotent slave."
Actually, upon re-quoting that very powerful and informative paragraph, I realize it makes perfect sense on this blog. NOIS just needed to put that out for everyone whether the ref was white or not. More dramatic race bullshit!!
"The only reason either of them were necessary was because NOIS initially wrote this entry as if the ref were white."
Sir, really?
Interesting. When we read the piece on foxsports.com about the incident, it clearly stated the ref was a Negro.
So, being conscientious media watchdogs, we included that fact in our account of the event.
You levy a completely uninformed accusation that we 'initially' wrote it was if the ref were white.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion.
But uninformed opinions are worthless.
We simply gave provided our readership with information about why, in some instances, a Negro man might be offended by being called 'boy'.
Never did we state or even so much as imply that Rolle felt disrespected for that reason.
Rolle clearly explained why he felt disrespected.
We strove to inform our white readers as to the dangers of using 'boy' in reference to Negro males.
And, in return for our effort, we get crackpots like you writing comments geared at turning what happened to Rolle into a racially divisive act.
See, there is no pleasing white folks.
When a Negro believes a racist act has occured, he is told to shut up and quit playing the race card.
When a Negro -in this case Rolle- makes ZERO insinuation that race was involved or could be involved (the other guy was NEGRO, duh!!!), people like you and censored try to spin Rolle's complaint into him playing the race card....
We suppose if Negroes just never said a word about anything...that then....YOU'D be happy, right?
"We suppose if Negroes just never said a word about anything...that then....YOU'D be happy, right?"
well, that's a good start! but, doing something about the smell of them would really be even better!
"We strove to inform our white readers as to the dangers of using 'boy' in reference to Negro males"
How righteous of you to go out of your way like that. How about calling ANY adult male a boy? Are White, Asian, or Native American men supposed to take any less offense to it???
I know some black men have a sort of inferiority complex and a real chip on their shoulder from the days of slavery, but I didn't know it was etched in stone that they have more of a right to be offended by being called a boy than a man of any other race. Thanks for that.
"When a Negro -in this case Rolle- makes ZERO insinuation that race was involved or could be involved (the other guy was NEGRO, duh!!!), people like you and censored try to spin Rolle's complaint into him playing the race card...."
Um, I never ONCE implied that Rolle made anything racial of this whatsoever!! Please point out to me where you could have possibly got that from.
It is YOU who I called out for getting all racial on your soap box (do I need to post that same paragraph again??).
Dwelling on how a black man feels when a white man calls him boy has absolutely nothing to do with the issue at hand. Making needless references to slavery has nothing to do with it either. Complete nonsense... racebaiting shit.
Rolle never brought race into this. You most certainly did. Denying it makes you seem very stupid, and we both know you're not stupid.
The issue here is that NOIS added the asterisk later. He initially posted without it. Thus once he found out the ref was black he had to backtrack to save face. He got all excited to blow up a minor issue into a major event and forgot to get his facts straight first. Let's leave the asterisks where they belong...on barry bonds records.
"well, that's a good start! but, doing something about the smell of them would really be even better!"
Dave, please. Enough is enough. Posters like you that usually have nothing to offer but ignorant and blindly racist comments are the reason none of the black posters here take the white posters seriously.
Go join the KKK or some confederate museum society or something. You add nothing to any discussion here, ever. Your shock-comments would be much better received on a white power website.
"The issue here is that NOIS added the asterisk later. He initially posted without it."
actually, that's not true.
i read the post when it was first up with no comments on it.
and the asterisk was THERE.
you even made comments about the post, and never mentioned it not being there and then being put in later.
in fact no one mentioned it not being there...and, the comment thread shows that, based on the comments, the asterisk was there early on....
"You add nothing to any discussion here, ever. "
and your comments about an asterisk that was there from the beginning of the post do???
you guys arguing about the asterisk are morons...it's pretty obvious the whole point of the post is making fun of Rolle for making a big deal about it BY making a big deal about...holy shit, some of you are just absolutely brain dead.
"and your comments about an asterisk that was there from the beginning of the post do???"
Dave, if you could read you would see that regardless of when the asterisk was included my point is that it was entirely unnecessary for NOIS to ramble on about racism/slavery when writing an entry about this particular incident.
Instead of objectively writing about the issue as it is, he dwells on a hypothetical situation in which a white man calls a black man a boy. He even tags "racism" at the bottom of the entry.
I guess this should be seen as normal since NOIS writes everything from an overly race-defensive perspective.
how do we not know that the offical didn`t say " act like a man not a boy" or can we not use the word boy anymore and should use the word male youth now. Rolle`s teammate was sure acting like a boy or should i say child when he threw a flag into the stands.
Dave feels empowered by his anonymity. His comments show fear and weakness. Typical...
"Dave feels empowered by his anonymity. His comments show fear and weakness. Typical..."
exactly, max a million....which, i assume is your real name? and your comments on my comments...show you are a lazy jig.
i read the post when it was first up with no comments on it.
and the asterisk was THERE.
you even made comments about the post, and never mentioned it not being there and then being put in later.
in fact no one mentioned it not being there...and, the comment thread shows that, based on the comments, the asterisk was there early on....
NOIS does a good job of making you idiots believe whatever he says...he added the asterisk later....he is a race baiting jackass and continually makes up issues to push the agenda.
"he added the asterisk later...."
why didn't mention it when you FIRST commented...or second posted...or put up your third comment...or fourth comment...etc...on this thread?...lol...caught in yet another lie.
you need help.
"he is a race baiting jackass and continually makes up issues to push the agenda."
so, NOIS made up that a ref made a smartass comment to a player?
again, you need help man.
so, NOIS made up that a ref made a smartass comment to a player?
nope..he just tried to introduce a false racial element..then added an asterisk when he bothered to check the facts.
"nope..he just tried to introduce a false racial element..then added an asterisk when he bothered to check the facts."
umm, if you read the article nois referenced, there were no facts to check...it says the guy was black straight away. face it, you've been outdone by nois yet again and are now looking even dumber and more vitriolic than usual.
Now hold on! Wait a cotton-pickin' minute (sarcasm intentional.) You just said during the Imus thread that an offensive word from a black person to another black is excusable. Make up your mind Farrakan!
Malcolm Hex, your bias is allowing you to completely miss the point.
It's not about nit-picking when the asterisk was put there. If it was indeed in the entry all along then really it makes NOIS look like he was forcing a racial issue even more so than if it were a correction.
What the hell is the point of writing the entire blog entry as if a white ref had called a black player a boy? Of dwelling on racial pride and the slavery element?? There is none whatsoever, other than distort the reality of the matter at hand.
The racial element is played up only to add in tiny letters at the end that... oh by the way, the ref was black. Whether NOIS knew that from the beginning or not does NOT change the fact that the majority of his entry, and that one paragraph in particular, are rendered nonsense by that truth.
The point is that in this case, as in many others, a depiction of unabashed racism is portrayed where there was not any racism at all. NOIS's paranoid delusions of racism inspire much of his writing, and it shows here big time.
This 'censored' guy is clearly off his rocker, but he did bring up a point that you all seem too quick to dismiss.
There was no racial aspect of the disrespectful comment, yet it is presented in a racial context on this blog. Then all the other commenters dogpile on him saying that he is the one who is making it a race issue.
But that's a load of crap. He is not the only person making this a race issue; everyone here is doing that. The name of the blog is Nation of Islam Sportsblog. Every post on the blog has to do with race, specifically with blacks vs. whites.
'censored' may be a jackass, but he's not the one who presented this as a racial issue.
"You just said during the Imus thread that an offensive word from a black person to another black is excusable. Make up your mind Farrakan!"
Sir, where in this post did I say that it was inexcusable for a Negro ref to call the Negro player a boy?
"Whether NOIS knew that from the beginning or not does NOT change the fact that the majority of his entry, and that one paragraph in particular, are rendered nonsense by that truth."
nois pointed out why it is offensive for a white man to call a black man boy.....and you are saying that his reasons for it being offensive are nonsense??
so, according to you, since the ref was black and the player was black..it is ok for WHITE men to call Black men 'boy'??
wow.
"'censored' may be a jackass, but he's not the one who presented this as a racial issue."
the post clearly stated that the ref was black. the post clearly stated that it was wrong for white men to call black men boy. it was a PSA.
censored is the one that took a simple message to help people better communicate and turned it into a racist rant.
that is his doing. not the blogs.
"ir, where in this post did I say that it was inexcusable for a Negro ref to call the Negro player a boy?"
My good man:
I think you misunderstand. In the story on Imus, you trivialized the calling of black women ho's of black rappers saying, in effect, that it is 'all in the family'. On this story, you have gone in the opposite direction saying that the blackness of the offender is inconsequential as he is a representative of a white power structure. Let me inform you that Time Warner and Viacom (the whip-yielders for these jigaboo rappers) are whiter, more powerful and more structured than the NFL
PS: I enjoy your writing in my limited exposure to it, and I feel that you generally attempt to be fair, but only through constructive criticism can a good writer become great.
PPS: I'm black and have been as long as I can remember.
"On this story, you have gone in the opposite direction saying that the blackness of the offender is inconsequential as he is a representative of a white power structure."
Sir, again...where did we say this?
This is a case of the reader attributing something to us, in an effort to make some sort of point....but we NEVER even said it.
Therefore, you aren't debate us or arguing what we said.
You are arguing with yourself.
'Cause, we never said the Negro ref was a representative of the white power structure.
What exactly did you read? Cause it wasn't the post on our blog....
"I enjoy your writing in my limited exposure to it, and I feel that you generally attempt to be fair"
are fucking crazy? NOIS attempts to be fair?
wtf?
OH!!!!
"PPS: I'm black and have been as long as I can remember."
That explains it...another angry jig. And not the Irish type.
only through constructive criticism can a good writer become great.
Always nice when Mr. Whitlock takes some time to help out the bloggers.
"Always nice when Mr. Whitlock takes some time to help out the bloggers."
where's Dr. Harry Edwards? I like his comments better...
""On this story, you have gone in the opposite direction saying that the blackness of the offender is inconsequential as he is a representative of a white power structure."
"Of course, the usage of the term 'boy' in referring to an adult Negro male by a white* male is meant to be as disrespectful and degrading as using the N-word. It is designed to figuratively castrate the adult Negro male and reinforce the notion of being powerless. Of being an impotent slave."
I think that anyone with a brain can infer the meaning of *.
"are fucking crazy? NOIS attempts to be fair?"
Dave the Wave I think you misunderstood I said that they ATTEMPT to be fair, I did not say that they always succeded; a little like the way you ATTEMPTED to be humorous with your 4th grade double entendre. Actually, I think the NOI attempt was more accurate.
"Always nice when Mr. Whitlock takes some time to help out the bloggers."
No, I'm not Whitlock, actually you can call me Flintlock, because my ideas may be old fashioned, but I will pull the trigger.
"No, I'm not Whitlock, actually you can call me Flintlock, because my ideas may be old fashioned, but I will pull the trigger."
and MY attempts at wit are lame?
"I think that anyone with a brain can infer the meaning of *."
Sir, apparently not.
Seem like the old Flintlock didn't spark.
"Seem like the old Flintlock didn't spark."
Touché grasshopper! You will be eligible to leave the dojo and go on your own quite soon!
"and MY attempts at wit are lame?"
You Daniel-San have much work to do. Continue wax-on wax-off!
"You Daniel-San have much work to do. Continue wax-on wax-off!"
this blog just brings out the worst...
"this blog just brings out the worst..."
have to agree with dave on this one.
give it up, truth. its not happening today.
You know what's really lame? When everyone on this blog starts their comment by quoting someone else's comment over and over again. Can't you all just assume everyone will know what you are referring to? It would make for much easier reading, especially for dimwits like me. Thanks.
"You know what's really lame?"
The 20th season of the Simpsons?
"When everyone on this blog starts their comment by quoting someone else's comment over and over again."
"When everyone on this blog starts their comment by quoting someone else's comment over and over again."
"When everyone on this blog starts their comment by quoting someone else's comment over and over again."
"Can't you all just assume everyone will know what you are referring to?"
I can assume through your post that you wear a faux-hawk.
"It would make for much easier reading, especially for dimwits like me. "
Maybe I should cut your meat into little squares also...or even regurgitate it.
"Can't you all just assume everyone will know what you are referring to?"
actualluy, i assume everyone is a numbnutted dipshit, like you...so, I can't assume they will know anything.
sorry.
"actualluy, i assume everyone is a numbnutted dipshit, like you...so, I can't assume they will know anything."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
Daniel-San, I think you've just earned your yellow belt!
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