tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post1902141431156740877..comments2024-03-17T02:13:18.084-05:00Comments on Nation Of Islam Sportsblog: Bonds: It's Required To Give Him His Duenation_of_islam_sportsbloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16491761873319173870noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-91492981504192244742007-08-20T14:58:00.000-05:002007-08-20T14:58:00.000-05:00My Good Fellows -It is interesting that Mr. Armstr...My Good Fellows -<BR/><BR/>It is interesting that Mr. Armstrong and his assitants had such success in causing the story to "just sort of die", yet at least two competitors in this years Tour of France had no such good fortune. Nor, if memory serves, did the previous years short reigned champion manage to get the story to "just sort of die." Perhaps you have some sort of theory of conspiracy for how Lance Armstrong was able to induce this "dying" of the story?<BR/><BR/>What is clear is that you disparage Mr. Armstrong's accomplishments for exactly the same alleged and unproven acts as continue to follow Mr. Bonds--whom you believe should be cherished. I find this confusing given the high fairmindedness you purport to maintain. I also find it interesting that you have now introduced Mr. Armstrong's skin color into our discussion as a differentiator--what is your point here?<BR/><BR/>And why exactly do you hate Lance Armstrong?RockyJasonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18207000306022229389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-33629068049013175312007-08-20T13:42:00.000-05:002007-08-20T13:42:00.000-05:00Sir, the only thing we have noticed is your undyin...Sir, the only thing we have noticed is your undying allegiance to the legend (which should, based on the accounts of innumerable witness, cyclists, proteges and doctors, be completely tarnished and asterisked beyond recognition...or at least to the level Bonds has)of the great white cyclist.<BR/><BR/>Your incredible willingness to discount any and all of the thousand or so accounts/tests/even his own admission to using EPO is a clear sign of your reprehensible bias.<BR/><BR/>We request that you refrain from tainting us with the descriptor "friend".<BR/><BR/>We are no friend to the biased mind.nation_of_islam_sportsbloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16491761873319173870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-15445777800763497402007-08-20T10:46:00.000-05:002007-08-20T10:46:00.000-05:00My Friend -- Keep your biking shorts on. You may ...My Friend --<BR/> <BR/>Keep your biking shorts on. You may recall my general agreement with the original post. I certainly know that there has been no positive test results for Mr. Bond and the conjecture for him is purely based on his shoe size growing from 11 to 13 after his first few seasons in the major league. <BR/><BR/>My only point was to question the conjecture towards Mr. Armstrong. Were the French labs results truly positive, one would have expected at least one of Lance Armstrong's French titles to be vacated. You may recall from your readings that the French, much like yourself, have no love for Mr. Armstong.RockyJasonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18207000306022229389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-968375930052087852007-08-20T09:37:00.000-05:002007-08-20T09:37:00.000-05:00"Mr. Nois -Perhaps the story kind of died because ..."Mr. Nois -<BR/>Perhaps the story kind of died because the "mudd" had credence and could not be honestly removed. Certainly no demonstration of fact. "<BR/><BR/>Sir, it is a fact that those samples tested postive.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps it died because America loves its white hero who beat cancer?<BR/><BR/>Perhaps?<BR/><BR/>Although, keep it coming, we love your spirit. And your bias.<BR/><BR/>Where are the positive steroid tests for Bonds?<BR/><BR/>There haven't even been any hinted at. The only thing connecting him to steroids is the word of others.<BR/><BR/>And read a bit about Lance.<BR/><BR/>Way more people in cycling placing him as being involved in PEDs.<BR/><BR/>Clearly, you've established your unrelenting bias and your disinterest in being fair and open minded.<BR/><BR/>If that was what you were trying to accomplish.<BR/><BR/>Job well done.nation_of_islam_sportsbloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16491761873319173870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-72429721257886599872007-08-20T09:26:00.000-05:002007-08-20T09:26:00.000-05:00Mr. Nois -Perhaps the story kind of died because t...Mr. Nois -<BR/>Perhaps the story kind of died because the "mudd" had credence and could not be honestly removed. Certainly no demonstration of fact.RockyJasonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18207000306022229389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-59694323494190060082007-08-19T17:06:00.000-05:002007-08-19T17:06:00.000-05:00Sir,If you recall. That B set of samples from the...Sir,<BR/><BR/>If you recall. That B set of samples from the late 90s. That were still archived at the French lab. That tested positive for EPO.<BR/><BR/>Lance's lawyers tried to throw mudd at the "chain of custody", and the story kind of died.NOIShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14400294648287778211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-76242340088735653602007-08-17T13:29:00.000-05:002007-08-17T13:29:00.000-05:00My friend --I generally agree with the undercurren...My friend --<BR/>I generally agree with the undercurrent of your post, although I see no reason to "cherish" Mr. Bonds or his drug enhanced accomplishments. Also, I'm curious of your statement that Mr. Armstrong has "returned dubious results." Is this fact or conjecture? Please cite references.RockyJasonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18207000306022229389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-31261093020876312952007-08-10T10:56:00.000-05:002007-08-10T10:56:00.000-05:00There has been entirely too much stuff written on ...There has been entirely too much stuff written on Barry Bonds. Overkill. I'm just sick of it all.<BR/><BR/>That being said, I think everyone should read this post. Well done.cowboy danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15365853660165426888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-29625141120694078552007-08-09T16:08:00.000-05:002007-08-09T16:08:00.000-05:00You think?You think?Mr.Poindexterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10979103112579725668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-1978857247600237732007-08-09T13:56:00.000-05:002007-08-09T13:56:00.000-05:00"Bonds will forever have the virtual asterisk atta..."Bonds will forever have the virtual asterisk attached to his records in the minds of many fans."<BR/><BR/>you think?<BR/><BR/>wow, you are deep.ZEKEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04726230494215835052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-13815754683548144702007-08-09T13:51:00.000-05:002007-08-09T13:51:00.000-05:00LGF,It's not about dancing a jig for the media. I...LGF,<BR/><BR/>It's not about dancing a jig for the media. It's about taking care of yourself and your image as a public figure. If Bonds had a friend who was a killer, that's one thing that's easy to say "well, he's standing by his friend who clearly needs help and support." <BR/><BR/>But he's never been fan-friendly, which isn't neessarily a bad thing. Until you end up in this doping scandal. Without an independent source of goodwill, you're left largely on your own, without a counterbalance to mitigate what the press says.<BR/><BR/>Especially if he wasn't doping.<BR/><BR/>But if he wants to be the rugged aloof figure, there's some drawbacks to that as well.Sebastianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08688256778151544515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-24311174869909559772007-08-09T11:02:00.000-05:002007-08-09T11:02:00.000-05:00I believe most people marvel in seeing things like...<I>I believe most people marvel in seeing things like this broken, ill-gotten or not.</I><BR/><BR/>Sir, it seems clear that the only things most people want to see broken are the 14th and 15th Amendments.Adam Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13534623548107383465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-48060006595363319012007-08-09T10:39:00.000-05:002007-08-09T10:39:00.000-05:00"If he is in fact clean and untainted, then he did..."If he is in fact clean and untainted, then he didn't do himself any favors in how he's handled this situation."<BR/><BR/>thats what i like about Bonds. He is his own man and does things his own way. If he does like a question, or the person asking it, he'll tell you about. He isn't going to dance a jig for the media just because they can say ridiculous things about him.<BR/><BR/>He knows who he is and doesn't need to be validated by the vultures in the media.lgfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14847207351789549325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-20727576505789951122007-08-09T10:23:00.000-05:002007-08-09T10:23:00.000-05:00Bonds and the Hall of Fame?He'll get in, and absen...Bonds and the Hall of Fame?<BR/><BR/>He'll get in, and absent being found guilty of sterioid trafficking, he won't have an asterisk next to his name. <BR/><BR/>But the damage is already done. If he is in fact clean and untainted, then he didn't do himself any favors in how he's handled this situation.Sebastianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08688256778151544515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-4335639608073000132007-08-09T09:33:00.000-05:002007-08-09T09:33:00.000-05:00Game of Shadows presents some compelling evidence,...Game of Shadows presents some compelling evidence, but I think judgment should be reserved until al doubt is removed from the implications on Bonds. <BR/><BR/>Nevertheless, its a great record and I believe most people marvel in seeing things like this broken, ill-gotten or not.Jarretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05055106710456679987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-83625989808551356792007-08-09T09:31:00.000-05:002007-08-09T09:31:00.000-05:00mI haven't heard any serious discussion of barring...mI haven't heard any serious discussion of barring Bonds from the HOF-he was headed there before performance enhancers(unlike Sosa,Palmiero,McGuire,and most other users-Sheffield will be an interesting case)and deserves enshrinement.However,just as Cobb is rarely mentioned without allusions to his being a racist prick and Perry is synonomous with spitballs,Bonds will forever have the virtual asterisk attached to his records in the minds of many fans.Mr.Poindexterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10979103112579725668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-22782013017087474762007-08-09T08:10:00.000-05:002007-08-09T08:10:00.000-05:00"Love Bonds all you want, he's going to need it. "..."Love Bonds all you want, he's going to need it. "<BR/><BR/><BR/>ok, maybe you aren't capt obvious.<BR/><BR/>love bonds? i been saying the guy is a CHEATER. i anxiously await his federal trial and future incarceration.<BR/><BR/>THAT i'd love.Dave the Wavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12044654588669635538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-5851381253127896912007-08-09T06:43:00.000-05:002007-08-09T06:43:00.000-05:00Wave Dave.To quote the great rodent superhero Migh...Wave Dave.<BR/><BR/>To quote the great rodent superhero Mighty Mouse'<BR/><BR/>"Heeeere I come to save the daaayyyy!<BR/><BR/>"Captain Obvious" indeed. He never had a cartoon serial.....<BR/><BR/>Love Bonds all you want, he's going to need it.Sebastianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08688256778151544515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-43944008190248563062007-08-08T20:32:00.000-05:002007-08-08T20:32:00.000-05:00" Can you direct me to where Brother Bonds has bee..." Can you direct me to where Brother Bonds has been CONVICTED of an offense?"<BR/><BR/>well, other than the fact that waterhead ADMITTED he used "the cream"...nope.<BR/><BR/>But, I guess ADMITTING he used a steroid just isn't fact based, is it??Dave the Wavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12044654588669635538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-2750628875198411762007-08-08T20:30:00.000-05:002007-08-08T20:30:00.000-05:00"Bravo, sir, bravo. "Sir, please....give a bravo t..."Bravo, sir, bravo. "<BR/><BR/><BR/>Sir, please....give a bravo to yourself.<BR/><BR/>We couldn't do it without you and those like you.nation_of_islam_sportsbloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16491761873319173870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-46937395444130009952007-08-08T20:29:00.000-05:002007-08-08T20:29:00.000-05:00"Fans will look to Junior and A-Rod, rooting harde..."Fans will look to Junior and A-Rod, rooting harder for them to break Bond's record, if possible. "<BR/><BR/>holy shit!!!<BR/><BR/>ladies and gentleman...<BR/><BR/>it's CAPT OBVIOUS!!<BR/><BR/><BR/>wow!Dave the Wavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12044654588669635538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-92039078199680912272007-08-08T19:34:00.000-05:002007-08-08T19:34:00.000-05:00"bonds is a cheater."Sir, remember, the premise of..."bonds is a cheater."<BR/><BR/>Sir, remember, the premise of this blog is to deal with facts. Can you direct me to where Brother Bonds has been CONVICTED of an offense? Or where, sir, he has been disciplined in any fashion by MLB? <BR/><BR/>I await your factual based response, sir.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06295472526741937318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-30951673020365583882007-08-08T17:12:00.000-05:002007-08-08T17:12:00.000-05:00Sir, once again you have shed the harsh light of r...Sir, once again you have shed the harsh light of righteousness on the cockroach of mass media hypocricy! Bravo, sir, bravo.My Hero Zerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10456392797395455411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-72866749627689840812007-08-08T16:29:00.000-05:002007-08-08T16:29:00.000-05:00Barry Bonds is the Home Run King.Clean or not; giv...Barry Bonds is the Home Run King.<BR/><BR/>Clean or not; given his combative relationship with everyone in the sports world from teammates to fans to the press, he won't be a favorite. It is what it is.<BR/><BR/>Fans will look to Junior and A-Rod, rooting harder for them to break Bond's record, if possible.Sebastianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08688256778151544515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-20706749558441454582007-08-08T15:08:00.000-05:002007-08-08T15:08:00.000-05:00"Even if you take the allegations at face value (i..."Even if you take the allegations at face value (in and of itself a clear admission of bigotry)"<BR/><BR/>Interesting. But how is that an admission of bigotry?lgfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14847207351789549325noreply@blogger.com