tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post131528137782763306..comments2024-03-17T02:13:18.084-05:00Comments on Nation Of Islam Sportsblog: Poll: Vick Getting Preferential Treatment?nation_of_islam_sportsbloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16491761873319173870noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-43608007959213592342007-08-18T07:40:00.000-05:002007-08-18T07:40:00.000-05:00"In Louisiana, historically a hotbed in the underg..."In Louisiana, historically a hotbed in the underground world of pit bull fighters, local authorities have uncovered several large cases in recent years that federal prosecutors have not entered, said Laura Maloney, chief executive officer for the Louisiana Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. In 2005 alone, local agents uncovered three suspected fighting outfits within the span of a few months that netted 234 pit bulls, Maloney said. The U.S. attorney did not enter any of the cases, she said."<BR/>http://content.hamptonroads.com/story.cfm?story=130158&ran=113733&tref=y<BR/><BR/>But all of a sudden Mike Vick is the Grand Czar of the vast dogfighting underworld and suddenly, as if overnight, the government absolutely detests these types of activities......meanwhile a former NHL player involved in a nationwide gambling scheme involving the greatest NHLer of all time gets 2 yrs PROBATION and an NBA ref has linked up to 20 other refs in illegal gambling activity threatening the existence of the NBA at all.....wow....WMDs...sports style.Gabby's Worldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06896646922819777485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-10698885208044816342007-08-17T08:55:00.000-05:002007-08-17T08:55:00.000-05:00I'm confused. Beings how whitey stood to make fahi...I'm confused. <BR/><BR/>Beings how whitey stood to make fahillions (yep thats a real number so high whitey likes to keep it a secret from minorities) off Vick, why did they persecute and railroad him, losing fahillions in the process? Are they just teaching him and his fans who's boss, to not get too upppity?Huhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13250104268772282994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-67130794338228800422007-08-16T14:32:00.000-05:002007-08-16T14:32:00.000-05:00"Dare we say....job well done!"you dare'd!"Dare we say....job well done!"<BR/><BR/>you dare'd!The Lawn Jockeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07738409959747491134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-82093256460718691462007-08-15T13:29:00.000-05:002007-08-15T13:29:00.000-05:00"Someone asked you how the Vick situation was raci..."Someone asked you how the Vick situation was racist. You called them a racist (justifiably) and said you didn't even mention race in this post(also true). I then implored you a little more explaining that it was the situation in general, not this particular post that he surely was inquiring about. Yet your response is that you explained it clearly in your post? "<BR/><BR/>Sir, you've come a long way.<BR/><BR/>We feel like our teaching, and your learning are combining to really bring some rightousness into your life.<BR/><BR/>Dare we say....job well done!nation_of_islam_sportsbloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16491761873319173870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-5397220850152536902007-08-15T13:18:00.000-05:002007-08-15T13:18:00.000-05:00"It would make no sense for you to criticize us fo..."It would make no sense for you to criticize us for calling him racist, when you agree that he made a racist comment.<BR/><BR/>We are glad we have finally reached a common ground with you on this."<BR/><BR/>Yeah, I do agree with you that his wishes were racist in nature. I wasn't objecting that, I was merely upset with your decision to attack him instead of answer him. (at the very least, tell him that it would be racist to wish a white qb to go down, then explain how the vick situation is racist)<BR/><BR/>""General" was used to imply that the statement he made was not post-specific (your first defense), "<BR/><BR/>Sir, the comment was directed at the post.<BR/><BR/>How could it not be post specific?"<BR/><BR/>His comment was directed at the situation, not this particular post.<BR/><BR/>""What I did was notice sir malcom y's inquisition on why the VICK situation was racist, and how you chose to attack him rather than respond thoughtfully."<BR/><BR/>Did you read the post?<BR/><BR/>How much plainer can we make it?"<BR/><BR/>Which post? This one? The one that you claimed "Sir, um...we looked back at our original post and found no mention of race."<BR/><BR/>So in summary:<BR/><BR/>Someone asked you how the Vick situation was racist. You called them a racist (justifiably) and said you didn't even mention race in this post(also true). I then implored you a little more explaining that it was the situation in general, not this particular post that he surely was inquiring about. Yet your response is that you explained it clearly in your post?NOI rules!!1https://www.blogger.com/profile/05696477985326194311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-44806426371932173702007-08-15T12:50:00.000-05:002007-08-15T12:50:00.000-05:00"I didn't accuse you of explaining how wishing for..."I didn't accuse you of explaining how wishing for a white QB to be arrested might be racist."<BR/><BR/>Sir, so then you <I>do</I> agree that such a sentiment is effectively racist.<BR/><BR/>We will take your agreement as recinding your previous complaint that we called sir malcolm y "racist".<BR/><BR/>It would make no sense for you to criticize us for calling him racist, when you agree that he made a racist comment.<BR/><BR/>We are glad we have finally reached a common ground with you on this.nation_of_islam_sportsbloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16491761873319173870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-80397315646632735542007-08-15T12:47:00.000-05:002007-08-15T12:47:00.000-05:00"General" was used to imply that the statement he ..."General" was used to imply that the statement he made was not post-specific (your first defense), "<BR/><BR/>Sir, the comment was directed at the post.<BR/><BR/>How could it <I>not</I> be post specific?<BR/><BR/>That makes no sense.<BR/><BR/>"What I did was notice sir malcom y's inquisition on why the VICK situation was racist, and how you chose to attack him rather than respond thoughtfully."<BR/><BR/>Did you read the post?<BR/><BR/>How much plainer can we make it?<BR/><BR/>My goodness.<BR/><BR/>We <I>are</I> teachers.<BR/><BR/>But, unfortunately, we <B>don't</B> teach special ed.nation_of_islam_sportsbloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16491761873319173870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-22358998537321661092007-08-15T10:11:00.000-05:002007-08-15T10:11:00.000-05:00You have both misquoted and misunderstood me."As f...You have both misquoted and misunderstood me.<BR/><BR/>"As far as it being "general black feelings on the case"...HA."<BR/><BR/>What I said was: "Not once in there was a mention of the race card being played in this specific post, but rather it seemed to be a very general statement regarding black feelings on the case."<BR/><BR/>I didn't say that the "general black feelings were to have a white qb arrested", as you make it seem.<BR/><BR/>"General" was used to imply that the statement he made was not post-specific (your first defense), and "black" showed that his feelings were those of an African American (he used the word "we", so I'm assuming this is correct). It is very clear that I was not saying that the sir malcom y represented the general black opinion.<BR/><BR/>Secondly...<BR/><BR/>"You accuse us of not explaining how the situation might be racist...hmmm. The man said he wanted white QB's to be arrested. If you can't see that being somewhat of a polarizing statement, we don't know what to tell you."<BR/><BR/>I didn't accuse you of explaining how wishing for a white QB to be arrested might be racist. What I did was notice sir malcom y's inquisition on why the VICK situation was racist, and how you chose to attack him rather than respond thoughtfully. <BR/><BR/>It appears that since you have such a hard time even recognizing the arguments that you are responding to, you choose to make up your own. <BR/><BR/>Perhaps it is time the student teaches the teacher a lesson.NOI rules!!1https://www.blogger.com/profile/05696477985326194311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-13575473692185222682007-08-15T09:50:00.000-05:002007-08-15T09:50:00.000-05:00"Not once in there was a mention of the race card ..."Not once in there was a mention of the race card being played in this specific post, but rather it seemed to be a very general statement regarding black feelings on the case. And as far as I can see, it seemed nothing more than a mild-mannered, introspective opinion and question related to this case and many writings about it on this site. <BR/><BR/>Yet, in typical defensive fashion, you decided rather than discuss this situation civilly and explain how the situation might be racist, to become combative, hide behind the fact that you didn't mention race in THIS post, and call sir malcom y racist. "<BR/><BR/>Sir, <BR/><BR/>First of all...the gentleman specifically said he hoped a white QB would get arrested.<BR/><BR/>We are sorry. We find that to be a heinous desire. If it offends you that we characterized the desire to see such thing befall a targetted racial demographic as being "racist" in overtone, well, then so be it.<BR/><BR/>Clearly, it doesn't bother you in the least when someone spefically attacks another race.<BR/><BR/>But it bothers us.<BR/><BR/>As far as it being "general black feelings on the case"...HA.<BR/><BR/>Not one Negro we know has voiced the hope that a white QB gets in trouble with the law to prove that race isn't a factor in the Vick case.<BR/><BR/>You take enormous liberty in deciding that sir malcolm y is speaking for an entire race.<BR/><BR/>He speaks for no one we have come into contact with...apparently, other than YOU.<BR/><BR/>You accuse us of not explaining how the situation might be racist...hmmm. The man said he wanted white QB's to be arrested. If you can't see that being somewhat of a polarizing statement, we don't know what to tell you.<BR/><BR/>You have a nose on your face. Do you believe us when we tell you that? Or do we need to take your hand and place it on your nose to prove it?<BR/><BR/>Civility?<BR/><BR/>Coming from an individual that makes a point to take every opportunity to ignorantly spread his poorly thought out opinions on OUR site, really, YOU are going to call US uncivil? Your life is your delusion...we'll let you live it.<BR/><BR/>Combative?<BR/><BR/>Sir, we are TEACHERS. At times a teach must scold the student.<BR/><BR/>Don't make us get out our rulers.nation_of_islam_sportsbloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16491761873319173870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-4574837735163673052007-08-15T07:52:00.000-05:002007-08-15T07:52:00.000-05:00"See, when we said "original post", that wasn't pl..."See, when we said "original post", that wasn't plural. You said "original posts". Additionally, our use of the term, "original post", was most clearly in reference to the post connected specifically to this comment thread. If we had been referring to EVERY post we EVER made on Vick, we wouldn't have specified 'original post'."<BR/><BR/>I assumed you would play it this way. However, the comment you were replying to said this:<BR/><BR/>"I wish some white QB would get busted so we can stop using the race card as a crutch. He committed a crime and is being prosecuted accordingly, what is so out of line about that."<BR/><BR/>Not once in there was a mention of the race card being played in this specific post, but rather it seemed to be a very general statement regarding black feelings on the case. And as far as I can see, it seemed nothing more than a mild-mannered, introspective opinion and question related to this case and many writings about it on this site. <BR/><BR/>Yet, in typical defensive fashion, you decided rather than discuss this situation civilly and explain how the situation might be racist, to become combative, hide behind the fact that you didn't mention race in THIS post, and call sir malcom y racist.NOI rules!!1https://www.blogger.com/profile/05696477985326194311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-60197991338765104762007-08-14T22:03:00.000-05:002007-08-14T22:03:00.000-05:00"Not looking for an argument here, more of an appr..."Not looking for an argument here, more of an approach at a proactive solution?"<BR/><BR/>Sir, at least you are realistic in realizing that their is no reasonable argument in the face of righteousness.<BR/><BR/>Possibly, rather than making the effort to punish...as we know well enough the effort to punish the individual that the govt. has undertaken in its misguided "war on drugs" has barely made a dent in the infusion of illegal drugs in this country...but it has filled the jails. Possibly, a better solution would be education? An effort to change those that are a part of the culture? Maybe attempt to humanize the dogs. To make those that would happily watch them fight to the death understand that dogs are people, too.<BR/><BR/>So to speak.nation_of_islam_sportsbloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16491761873319173870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-75593929294192064312007-08-14T20:39:00.000-05:002007-08-14T20:39:00.000-05:00again, not that DavePerhaps it is unfair that Vick...again, not that Dave<BR/><BR/>Perhaps it is unfair that Vick is being singled out. I don't know that any of us can prove that he is being singled out solely because he is black, or solely because he is an NFL quarterback, or any combination of the two. <BR/><BR/>But maybe the solution is to seek and try more cases at a federal level for what we can surely all agree is a cruel and shameful practice. Surely that will do more to detract people from training dogs for dogfighting than, say, considering Vick's case at only a local level. Not looking for an argument here, more of an approach at a proactive solution?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15968408948652652593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-50175345424064856692007-08-14T17:37:00.000-05:002007-08-14T17:37:00.000-05:00holy christ.nois does an interview with scoop...an...holy christ.<BR/><BR/>nois does an interview with scoop...and now "they" are coming out of the wood work.<BR/><BR/>maybe dave SHOULD start a blog.ZEKEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04726230494215835052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-57415305636181897582007-08-14T17:36:00.000-05:002007-08-14T17:36:00.000-05:00reason.you've all lost it. and you've all lost yo...reason.<BR/><BR/>you've all lost it. and you've all lost your minds.<BR/><BR/>we eat animals. they are here for our use. we are the top of the food chain. if that hurts your feelings, then too bad. we owe them nothing.<BR/><BR/>if all of you people that say that it's so wrong to allow dog fighting are the same people that go to burger king each nite to have a burger. then you are all full of crap.<BR/><BR/>if you eat say it is wrong to kill animals for entertainment. but it is ok to kill them for food. you are a hypocrit.<BR/><BR/>if you have other options for food. then you are a hypocrit.<BR/><BR/>animals have no rights. they are food. they are fun.<BR/><BR/>and don't judge me. cause, u'ont no me.u'ont no mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14165646064279484886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-17707411317722583432007-08-14T17:18:00.000-05:002007-08-14T17:18:00.000-05:00"Sir, what do you make of the latest reports re: b..."Sir, what do you make of the latest reports re: brother Vick's "<BR/><BR/>Sir, first of all...<BR/><BR/>You are wise to seek a righteous answer here, before going off and digesting the tripe the mainstream media will feed you.<BR/><BR/>With that in mind, we fully intend to shed darkness onto the most recent developments in the case with a full post.<BR/><BR/>We suspect, like you, that many await the righteous view on all this.<BR/><BR/>It's up to us not to deprive them by confining it to the comment thread.<BR/><BR/>Your patience is appreciated.nation_of_islam_sportsbloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16491761873319173870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-87529397830152229122007-08-14T17:15:00.000-05:002007-08-14T17:15:00.000-05:00Sir, what do you make of the latest reports re: br...Sir, what do you make of the latest reports re: brother Vick's attorneys are actively seeking a plea agreement, now armed with the knowledge that a "superceding indictment" may be forthcoming? In your research of the small percentage of dog fighting cases that were federally prosecuted, did you find a single case of charges being added to the original indictment?<BR/><BR/>Clearly, the Feds intend to place Mr. Vick in the judicial rape stand and make an example of him, lest our nation's second-class citizens get any crazy ideas about challenging authority.My Hero Zerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10456392797395455411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-34121903001194091272007-08-14T16:26:00.000-05:002007-08-14T16:26:00.000-05:00"And there you have it. "Sir, there is a passion i..."And there you have it. "<BR/><BR/>Sir, there is a passion in your incoherence that makes it hard for the intelligent to argue against your point.<BR/><BR/>We'll leave it to others to ponder.nation_of_islam_sportsbloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16491761873319173870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-19541552510714581222007-08-14T16:23:00.000-05:002007-08-14T16:23:00.000-05:00Bunch of ostriches. With heads buried in the sand...Bunch of ostriches. With heads buried in the sand. Pretending if Michael Vick was a white boy that the media would still be roasting him. That the feds would even be prosecuting him instead of the local authorities. Pretending like the only reason he is being so maligned is because he is famous.<BR/><BR/>Famous white people that commit crimes get treated like carnies. Not beasts. Paris Hilton goes to jail. And it's a fun joke. The other drug addicted white hollywood girls get in trouble and it's just gossip and tabloid fodder. <BR/><BR/>To pretend that this isn't even a subconscious attack on black folk is a lie to yourself.<BR/><BR/>If Vick is guilty of breaking the law should he be punished? Of course.<BR/><BR/>Is this a bad thing, if true? Of course.<BR/><BR/>Is this the worst crime imageinable? NO!<BR/><BR/>Is it worth all the money and effort spent by the federal govt, instead of just letting the locals run it? Of course not.<BR/><BR/>Is Vick black man? Yes.<BR/><BR/>And there you have it.freedom rings softlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08828825902669120626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-7167549260601535542007-08-14T16:14:00.000-05:002007-08-14T16:14:00.000-05:00"Just a few excerpts i found from your original po..."Just a few excerpts i found from your original posts:"<BR/><BR/>Sir, glad to see you read our work so closely (read: stalker).<BR/><BR/>Ahem...<BR/><BR/>See, when we said "original post", that wasn't plural. You said "original posts". Additionally, our use of the term, "original post", was most clearly in reference to the post connected specifically to this comment thread. If we had been referring to EVERY post we EVER made on Vick, we wouldn't have specified 'original post'.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Anyway, what do these have to do with our current post which reported on the results of NYT/CNN's poll on perception of Vick's treatment? You know THE post we are talking about in THIS thread?<BR/><BR/>Unless....are you quoting our past posts, which address different points of the Vick situation, in an effort to provide a connection between his race and the RARE practice of federal law enforcement getting involved in dog fighting prosecution?<BR/><BR/>If so, although we didn't make that point in this particular post, we can see your point.nation_of_islam_sportsbloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16491761873319173870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-73056339730478835842007-08-14T15:56:00.000-05:002007-08-14T15:56:00.000-05:00""I wish some white QB would get busted so we can ...""I wish some white QB would get busted so we can stop using the race card as a crutch. He committed a crime and is being prosecuted accordingly, what is so out of line about that. "<BR/><BR/>Sir, um...we looked back at our original post and found no mention of race."<BR/><BR/>Just a few excerpts i found from your original posts: <BR/><BR/>"The indictment against Michael Vick is a declaration of war on Negro families."<BR/><BR/>"We suppose if you are a white player in a suit, rather than a Negro QB with corn rows, PETA is not interested in trying to interfere with your career. And not interested in making an issue out of your treatment of animals."<BR/><BR/>"Certainly the commissioner and his henchmen are having a wonderful laugh in their ivory tower right now. They freed their pale skinned brother from full suspension and seem to have applied full shackles to Mr. Vick."<BR/><BR/>"The government will not rest until the career of the current flagship Negro QB has been destroyed.<BR/><BR/>This point can now no longer be argued."<BR/><BR/>"<BR/>The message is clear:<BR/><BR/>America prefers terrorists to Negro QB's. "<BR/><BR/>"It is becoming clearer and clearer that things are not going to end well for Mr. Vick. Being a Negro QB and the face of a franchise. Being, potentially, the most marketable player in the NFL. And having a "look" that old white men with fat wallets and racist inclinations find threatening have all combined to paint a target on the back of Mr. Vick."NOI rules!!1https://www.blogger.com/profile/05696477985326194311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-70291190958014274122007-08-14T15:42:00.000-05:002007-08-14T15:42:00.000-05:00Henry 8That point I concede. However, after the c...Henry 8<BR/><BR/>That point I concede. However, after the casual Google search it looks as if there's plenty of anti-dogfighting activity out there. The feds may be in on this one since it's such a high profile gift, leaving the rest for local prosecution. <BR/><BR/>Either way, jail is jail.<BR/><BR/>That is, provided Vick is found guilty.Sebastianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08688256778151544515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-51566454005936940472007-08-14T15:22:00.000-05:002007-08-14T15:22:00.000-05:00i mean aren't often federally prosecuted.i mean aren't often federally prosecuted.Henry the 8thhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081302535104892473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-24741184123010901412007-08-14T15:21:00.000-05:002007-08-14T15:21:00.000-05:00the contention isn't that dog fight arrests are th...the contention isn't that dog fight arrests are that uncommon...just that they are federally prosecuted...<BR/><BR/>at least i think that's it...Henry the 8thhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081302535104892473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-37695772338095585122007-08-14T15:10:00.000-05:002007-08-14T15:10:00.000-05:00How about everyone do a Google News search for "do...How about everyone do a Google News search for "dogfighting arrests"? See what you come up with, click in 2 or 3 pages and report back.Sebastianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08688256778151544515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4820078089278798499.post-39132766537247901852007-08-14T15:04:00.000-05:002007-08-14T15:04:00.000-05:00lean meat.high in protein.low in fat.koreans have ...lean meat.<BR/>high in protein.<BR/>low in fat.<BR/><BR/>koreans have it right.<BR/><BR/>throw another pooch on the barbi, baby!uncommon sensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16793335376243078333noreply@blogger.com